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Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
Frederik, I don't think it would be a good idea to put a price in Odoo Apps Store, due to these reasons:- The more important one: Odoo forbids in their conditions to have the module with a lower price (free in this case) available in other places. This was something highlighted by Ivan Yelizariev in Twitter and I think it's still not enforced, but it's a matter of time. He can comment about this if reading this thread.- The high 30% cut that we will lose.- The maintenance burden we will have, as manifest must be modified for accommodating to extra requirements in paid apps.- How to price each module? Same price? Number of lines proportional price with the need of computing this?- The support that must be done in those modules. Not sure, but I think there's certain obligations in paid apps.- The possible complaints of module authors about money getting to Odoo and OCA, but not them.I see OK to modify the README template for adding the link to OCA Apps as a minimal action for now, but don't have the silver bullet for the general problem.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 01:50 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
Hi Joe, yes, these are all very valid points. I didn't like the whole app store concept from the beginning but its in the interest of Odoo S.A. to control the customer base and the money flow. It we want to continue using the plattform as means to spread the OCA as "the" real community behind Odoo, we probably have to play the game to a certain degree. Otherwise Odoo will continue to build and "control" an own non-idependent community. To me that would finally be the end of all Open Source in Odoo. Ultimate control and power to exclude is something you strive for if you would like to maximize producer surplus and probably most valuable with regard to S.A. overall economic strategy but it is against the values and core essence of Open Source that strives to at least better balance producer and consumer surplus (i.e. reaching real market efficiency) Best Frederik Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 10:22 +0000 schrieb Joerg Lorenz: > +1 > Possible approach, in particular to get funds into the OCA > > Questions remaining: > > 1. odoo s.a. gets the money first and keeps 30% commission, as you > might know > > 2. the reporting of s.a. (was or is) "lousy". > We had to chase after our sales for 1,5 years. Proven case were never > reported and just turned up by accident (People were asking about > support with us, and therefore the tracing was possible) > I think our story is well known. > > 3. OCA modules still available for free in the OCA app store? > > In contrast: > If OCA is off the app store, will people not have the issue to know > about OCA even more? Is OCA strong enough? > See our contribution about marketing and "OCA as a brand " @ OCAdays > 2019 > > BR, Joe > > > Von: "frederik kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com> > An: "Odoo Community Association, (OCA) Contributors" < > contributors@odoo-community.org> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020 12:02:06 > Betreff: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store > > However, this burden is induced by purpose i guess. The OCA and its > modules are still not conceived as added valuable for the strategy of > Odoo S.A but probably rather as a strategic threat. > > That is a pitty but i am afraid that will -if it will- change only > when > S.A. desperately needs the OCA to survive. That won't probably happen > that soon. > > I do definitely agree with Pedro. Most of what you can "buy" on the > Odoo App store is crap (at least from a technical and architectural > perspective). But its nicely displayed crap and mostly decently > priced. > > There is only one measure i could think of to play the game. The OCA > as > collective code owner may "sell" their modules in the official app > store as well and use the money to do the marketing to get listet > there > (i.e. maintaining the html pages) and a surplose to fund code sprint > whereas the very same modules can be downloaded "free" in the OCA > store. > > The effect is. People that just don't care (i.e. mostly freeriders > anyway) will pay a fee that helps the OCA to do the "artwork" and > "sustain". Informed people use the OCA app store. > > An important downside of it all is, that S.A. earns commission with > that (but hey who cares if freeriders pay part of the price as > commission) > > And don't get me wrong its just an idea how to handle the strategy of > Odoo that might not be well perceived by a majority of contributors > and > therefore not applicable. In that regard i'd be interested in the > take > of long term heavy contributors (like Pedro) what thay think about > this > strategy? > > Best Frederik > > Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 07:27 +0000 schrieb Roussel, Denis: > > > > A good subject for OCA sprint ! > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Georg Notter < > > > > georg.notter@agenterp.com> wrote: > > > > > I also agree pedro is right \uD83D\uDC4D\uD83C\uDFFB > > > > > > > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > > > > We look forward to see you. Best Regards > > > > > Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter > > > > > Agent ERP GmbH > > > > > www.agenterp.com > > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal < > > > > > > david.beal@akretion.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pedro convinced me. > > > > > > > > > > > > While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for > odoo > > > > > > appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the > > > > > > beginning > > > > > > to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole > collection > > > > > > of > > > > > > modules (included those not present in odoo appstore) > > > > > > > > > > > > Bonne journée > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David BEAL - akretion.com > > > > > > Chef de projet > > > > > > Odoo Développement / Intégration > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis < > > > > > > denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) < > > > > > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The confirmed blacklist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing > > > > > > crap there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there > (not > > > > > > only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having > > > > > > the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally > last > > > > > > year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is > relevant > > > > > > enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps > Store > > > > > > or use it for having more features (like multi-language > READMEs). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: > https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: > https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dr.-Ing. 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by Frederik Kramer - 12:35 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1Possible approach, in particular to get funds into the OCAQuestions remaining:1. odoo s.a. gets the money first and keeps 30% commission, as you might know2. the reporting of s.a. (was or is) "lousy".We had to chase after our sales for 1,5 years. Proven case were never reported and just turned up by accident (People were asking about support with us, and therefore the tracing was possible)I think our story is well known.3. OCA modules still available for free in the OCA app store?In contrast:If OCA is off the app store, will people not have the issue to know about OCA even more? Is OCA strong enough?See our contribution about marketing and "OCA as a brand " @ OCAdays 2019BR, JoeVon: "frederik kramer" <frederik.kramer@initos.com>
An: "Odoo Community Association, (OCA) Contributors" <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020 12:02:06
Betreff: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps StoreHowever, this burden is induced by purpose i guess. The OCA and its modules are still not conceived as added valuable for the strategy of Odoo S.A but probably rather as a strategic threat. That is a pitty but i am afraid that will -if it will- change only when S.A. desperately needs the OCA to survive. That won't probably happen that soon. I do definitely agree with Pedro. Most of what you can "buy" on the Odoo App store is crap (at least from a technical and architectural perspective). But its nicely displayed crap and mostly decently priced. There is only one measure i could think of to play the game. The OCA as collective code owner may "sell" their modules in the official app store as well and use the money to do the marketing to get listet there (i.e. maintaining the html pages) and a surplose to fund code sprint whereas the very same modules can be downloaded "free" in the OCA store. The effect is. People that just don't care (i.e. mostly freeriders anyway) will pay a fee that helps the OCA to do the "artwork" and "sustain". Informed people use the OCA app store. An important downside of it all is, that S.A. earns commission with that (but hey who cares if freeriders pay part of the price as commission) And don't get me wrong its just an idea how to handle the strategy of Odoo that might not be well perceived by a majority of contributors and therefore not applicable. In that regard i'd be interested in the take of long term heavy contributors (like Pedro) what thay think about this strategy? Best Frederik Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 07:27 +0000 schrieb Roussel, Denis: > A good subject for OCA sprint ! > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Georg Notter < > georg.notter@agenterp.com> wrote: > > I also agree pedro is right \uD83D\uDC4D\uD83C\uDFFB > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > We look forward to see you. Best Regards > > Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter > > Agent ERP GmbH > > www.agenterp.com > > > > > Am 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal < > > > david.beal@akretion.com>: > > > > > > > > > Pedro convinced me. > > > > > > While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo > > > appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the > > > beginning > > > to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection > > > of > > > modules (included those not present in odoo appstore) > > > > > > Bonne journée > > > > > > > > > David BEAL - akretion.com > > > Chef de projet > > > Odoo Développement / Intégration > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis < > > > denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) < > > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The confirmed blacklist. > > > > > > > > > > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing > > > crap there. > > > > > > > > > > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not > > > only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having > > > the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last > > > year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant > > > enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store > > > or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > -- Dr.-Ing. 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by Joerg Lorenz. - 12:21 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: Mailing list problems
Thank you Pedro!Il giorno mer 10 giu 2020 alle ore 11:26 Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> ha scritto:_______________________________________________
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by Andrei Levin - 12:06 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
However, this burden is induced by purpose i guess. The OCA and its modules are still not conceived as added valuable for the strategy of Odoo S.A but probably rather as a strategic threat. That is a pitty but i am afraid that will -if it will- change only when S.A. desperately needs the OCA to survive. That won't probably happen that soon. I do definitely agree with Pedro. Most of what you can "buy" on the Odoo App store is crap (at least from a technical and architectural perspective). But its nicely displayed crap and mostly decently priced. There is only one measure i could think of to play the game. The OCA as collective code owner may "sell" their modules in the official app store as well and use the money to do the marketing to get listet there (i.e. maintaining the html pages) and a surplose to fund code sprint whereas the very same modules can be downloaded "free" in the OCA store. The effect is. People that just don't care (i.e. mostly freeriders anyway) will pay a fee that helps the OCA to do the "artwork" and "sustain". Informed people use the OCA app store. An important downside of it all is, that S.A. earns commission with that (but hey who cares if freeriders pay part of the price as commission) And don't get me wrong its just an idea how to handle the strategy of Odoo that might not be well perceived by a majority of contributors and therefore not applicable. In that regard i'd be interested in the take of long term heavy contributors (like Pedro) what thay think about this strategy? Best Frederik Am Mittwoch, den 10.06.2020, 07:27 +0000 schrieb Roussel, Denis: > A good subject for OCA sprint ! > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Georg Notter < > georg.notter@agenterp.com> wrote: > > I also agree pedro is right 👍🏻 > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > We look forward to see you. Best Regards > > Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter > > Agent ERP GmbH > > www.agenterp.com > > > > > Am 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal < > > > david.beal@akretion.com>: > > > > > > > > > Pedro convinced me. > > > > > > While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo > > > appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the > > > beginning > > > to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection > > > of > > > modules (included those not present in odoo appstore) > > > > > > Bonne journée > > > > > > > > > David BEAL - akretion.com > > > Chef de projet > > > Odoo Développement / Intégration > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis < > > > denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) < > > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - The confirmed blacklist. > > > > > > > > > > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing > > > crap there. > > > > > > > > > > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not > > > only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having > > > the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last > > > year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant > > > enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store > > > or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > -- Dr.-Ing. 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by Frederik Kramer - 12:01 - 10 Jun 2020 -
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Mailing list problems
Hello,I have a problem with the mailing list. I stopped receiving messages from "connectors" list even if I'm regularly subscribed.Who can help me with this?Thank you in advanceAndrei Levin--
by Andrei Levin - 11:20 - 10 Jun 2020 -
RE: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1
From: Georg Notter <georg.notter@agenterp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2020 09:22
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps StoreI also agree pedro is right 👍🏻
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
We look forward to see you. Best Regards
Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter
Agent ERP GmbH
Am 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal <david.beal@akretion.com>:
Pedro convinced me.
While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo
appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the beginning
to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection of
modules (included those not present in odoo appstore)
Bonne journée
David BEAL - akretion.com
Chef de projet
Odoo Développement / Intégration
Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :
>
> +1!
>
> Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
>
> I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:
>
> - The confirmed blacklist.
> - To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.
> - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.
>
> And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).
>
> Regards.
>
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by Luc De Meyer. - 09:41 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
A good subject for OCA sprint !On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Georg Notter <georg.notter@agenterp.com> wrote:I also agree pedro is right 👍🏻Mit freundlichen Grüßen
We look forward to see you. Best Regards
Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter
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www.agenterp.comAm 10.06.2020 um 09:18 schrieb David Beal <david.beal@akretion.com>:
Pedro convinced me. While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the beginning to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection of modules (included those not present in odoo appstore) Bonne journée David BEAL - akretion.com Chef de projet Odoo Développement / Intégration Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit : > > +1! > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit : > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to: > > - The confirmed blacklist. > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there. > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this. > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs). > > Regards. > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
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by Denis Roussel - 09:26 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
Pedro convinced me. While we have an automatic html file generated dedicated for odoo appstore, we could update it to add a generic ribbon at the beginning to invite people to visit oca store to find the whole collection of modules (included those not present in odoo appstore) Bonne journée David BEAL - akretion.com Chef de projet Odoo Développement / Intégration Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 09:01, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit : > > +1! > > Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit : > > I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to: > > - The confirmed blacklist. > - To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there. > - All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this. > > And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs). > > Regards. > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
by David BEAL - 09:16 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1
On 2020/06/10 09:07, admin@ygol.com wrote:
+1
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From: "Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)" <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>
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Subject: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 09:56
I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:
- The confirmed blacklist.
- To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.
- All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.
And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).
Regards.
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by Jacobus Erasmus - 09:16 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
But that doesn't happen, as there are multiple checks that require continuously to review and fix them.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 09:11 - 10 Jun 2020 -
AW: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1
OCA Apps store is really much more reliable!
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Von: Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)
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Betreff: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps StoreI also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:
- The confirmed blacklist.
- To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.
- All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.
And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).
Regards.
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by Ricardo Gross - 09:11 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1--Yves Goldberg------- Original message -----From: "Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)" <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>Subject: Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps StoreDate: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 09:56I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:- The confirmed blacklist.- To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.- All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).Regards._______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
by Yves Goldberg - 09:06 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
+1!Le mer. 10 juin 2020 à 08:56, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit :I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:- The confirmed blacklist.- To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.- All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).Regards.
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by Denis Roussel - 09:01 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
I also prefer to ignore Odoo Apps Store due to:- The confirmed blacklist.- To not have a special distinction between all the existing crap there.- All the maintenance burden we need to do for being there (not only publishing, but maintaining a special HTML file for having the same README displayed there, and many more). Personally last year that I was in charge of this I accounted 30 hours only for this.And personally I don't think the visibility we get is relevant enough. I prefer to spend that time spreading our own Apps Store or use it for having more features (like multi-language READMEs).Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 08:55 - 10 Jun 2020 -
Re: OCA Repositories in Odoo Apps Store
Hi,I thought what you guessed @dreis@opensourceintegrators.com about "blacklist" with others addons ;-)
We might prefer use https://odoo-community.org/shop from OCA or https://www.odoo-code-search.com/ from initOS even if publishing on Odoo Appstore meets certainly different needs.
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Le mar. 9 juin 2020 à 19:42, Daniel Reis <dreis@opensourceintegrators.com> a écrit :Bruno, you are right, the App store is not very reliable for OCA modules.
Still, it is important to have OCA modules there as much as possible. That brings visibility to the OCA itself and to our contributors.
I believe the tracking_mailgun is now listed.
The debrand is not, but is in the same repos, so I guess it was blacklisted.
--Daniel
On 09/06/2020 14:02, Bruno Joliveau wrote:
I don't know how Odoo Appstore works really for contributors who want to show their modules.
If it can helps anyone, for example, from the OCA repo (for this example https://github.com/OCA/social)https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/browse?search=tracking_mailgun and we find this contribution https://github.com/OCA/social/tree/12.0/mail_tracking_mailgun
https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/browse?search=debrand and there is no result even if in the same repo we find https://github.com/OCA/social/tree/12.0/mail_debrand
For me and daily internal use, I prefer to search on https://www.odoo-code-search.com/ for example
My 2 cents ;-)
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Le mar. 9 juin 2020 à 01:31, Simone Orsi <simahawk@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hello,
I'll do a round of checks but we have soooo many repos and modules that is very hard to get the full picture of their status at glance.
@Fekete: do you have a list of modules/repo/branch you specifically detected?
AFAIK this can be due to a bunch of reasons: branch not registered, scan of repo failed.
The 1st reason depends on the fact that the process is still manual and Odoo does not ease this process at all.There's a WIP proof of concept here to try to automate the process.If anyone wants to help Alexey with it, I'm sure it will be appreciated ;)
The 2nd may depend on errors when parsing some files (eg: rst docs).
Meanwhile, if you notice a module or a repo is missing, please let us know.
Cheers,S.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:21 PM Daniel Reis <dreis@opensourceintegrators.com> wrote:
Hello,
I got hold of the OCA app credentials, and there are a lot of warning to deal with.
I'll go through them.
You're welcome to ask me about any particular repo, if you want.
Thanks
Daniel
On 08/06/2020 20:56, Frederik Kramer wrote:
Or probably strategy enforcement ;-) Who knows. But i am with Holger to double check and to make sure that OCA is not doeing anything wrong Best Frederik Am Montag, den 08.06.2020, 19:52 +0000 schrieb Holger Brunn: > > Except mistake or bugs, the company seems filter the apps she wants > to show. > > so let's assume one of the first two and reach out to see what's > going on. A > mistake/glitch/whatever on the submitting (so our) side also isn't > impossible, > so let's ask the people busy with that to double check. > > In the past I made the mistake to mark some of my cooler modules as > dependencies, which they were because they don't do anything on their > own, but > that got them hidden in the app store. Maybe we also have different > visibility > rules at play between odoo sa and oca? > > --- > https://hunki-enterprises.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
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