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  • Re: New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CET)
    Hello,

    The message was sent earlier but we got an issue with emails connexion and Odoo (what a surprise!), so it came later.

    In the meantime, we received enough feedback and don't need more "what about this new idea?" :)

    Enjoy the weekend!
    Virginie Dewulf
    Executive Director
    +32 477 64 17 20


    Le ven. 7 févr. 2025 à 16:18, Houssine BAKKALI <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :

    Hi Denis,

    Are the deadline correct?

    The mail is sent the 6th February. That's make the deadline for yesterday. Which is quiet usual in the IT world 😅

    Thanks !
    Houssine


    Le jeu. 6 févr. 2025, 11:54, Roussel, Denis <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!

    PS: Original mail from Virginie

    Denis Roussel
    Software Engineer
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    M : +32 472 22 00 57


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    by Virginie Dewulf - 04:41 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CET)

    Hi Denis,

    Are the deadline correct?

    The mail is sent the 6th February. That's make the deadline for yesterday. Which is quiet usual in the IT world 😅

    Thanks !
    Houssine


    Le jeu. 6 févr. 2025, 11:54, Roussel, Denis <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!

    PS: Original mail from Virginie

    Denis Roussel
    Software Engineer
    T    : +32 2 888 31 49
    M : +32 472 22 00 57


    Zone industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg

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    by Houssine BAKKALI - 04:16 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

    Hi Michael,

    thank you. That is a pretty good summary of the technical options to solve the "sent mail / IMAP" problem. I consider the "Odoo Module" option 3) the best because. Basically that is also what Sergio proposed in his old 8.0 PR just some minutes ago. However, all in all this is just one of the problems using Odoo for E-Mail. 

    Best and have a nice weekend

    Frederik

    Am 07.02.25 um 10:37 schrieb Michel Stroom:
    Hi Frederik,

    Indeed, Odoo’s mail sending mechanism does not support IMAP's "Append" command, which is typically used to store outgoing messages in an IMAP folder.
    Odoo does not store sent emails in an IMAP folder by default because it acts as an SMTP sender, not a full-fledged email client. 

    Odoo's Sent Emails Exist Only in the technical Mail Queue (Backend):
    • Odoo logs sent emails in its internal database (mail.mail model).
    • These emails can be viewed within Odoo under Messaging > Emails or inside records like Sales Orders, Invoices, and Support Tickets.
    • However, these emails are not stored in an external IMAP mail folder.

    No Configurable IMAP Folder for Sent Emails:

    • Traditional email clients (e.g., Thunderbird, Outlook) allow users to specify an IMAP folder where sent emails should be saved.
    • Odoo does not provide an option to configure an external IMAP folder for storing sent messages.

    WORKAROUNDs
    Since Odoo does not natively store sent mail in IMAP, we can consider these alternatives:
    1. Use an SMTP Server That Automatically Copies Sent Mail to IMAP ("Sent" Folder)

      • Some SMTP providers (e.g., Gmail, Office 365) automatically store a copy of outgoing emails in the "Sent" folder when sending via SMTP.
      • If using Postfix, you can configure it to BCC outgoing emails to an IMAP mailbox.

      Postfix Example (Adding BCC for Sent Emails):
      sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf
      Add:  sender_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/bcc_map

      Create the BCC mapping file: 
      sudo nano /etc/postfix/bcc_map
      Add: @yourdomain.com archive@yourdomain.com

      Apply changes:
      sudo postmap /etc/postfix/bcc_map
      sudo systemctl restart postfix

    2. Use Odoo's "Aliases" Feature to Auto-Forward Sent Emails to an IMAP Folder

      • You can create an email alias in Odoo to automatically forward sent emails to a dedicated IMAP folder.
      • This workaround requires configuring mail forwarding on the SMTP server.
    3. Custom Odoo Module to Append Emails to IMAP "Sent" Folder

      • A custom Odoo module could be developed to use IMAP's APPEND command to store outgoing messages in a specified folder.


    Test the above workarounds and share the knowledge.

    Let me know if you, or somebody else, like to receive the workaround for Microsoft Exchange example.



    Best regards,


    Michel Stroom
    -- 

    Office Everywhere
    Business Partner Odoo

    t: +31 6 53360677
    e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
    w: Office-Everywhere.com

    LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



    On 6 Feb 2025, at 11:53, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
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    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
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    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

    by Frederik Kramer - 10:46 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
    Hi Frederik,

    Indeed, Odoo’s mail sending mechanism does not support IMAP's "Append" command, which is typically used to store outgoing messages in an IMAP folder.
    Odoo does not store sent emails in an IMAP folder by default because it acts as an SMTP sender, not a full-fledged email client. 

    Odoo's Sent Emails Exist Only in the technical Mail Queue (Backend):
    • Odoo logs sent emails in its internal database (mail.mail model).
    • These emails can be viewed within Odoo under Messaging > Emails or inside records like Sales Orders, Invoices, and Support Tickets.
    • However, these emails are not stored in an external IMAP mail folder.

    No Configurable IMAP Folder for Sent Emails:

    • Traditional email clients (e.g., Thunderbird, Outlook) allow users to specify an IMAP folder where sent emails should be saved.
    • Odoo does not provide an option to configure an external IMAP folder for storing sent messages.

    WORKAROUNDs
    Since Odoo does not natively store sent mail in IMAP, we can consider these alternatives:
    1. Use an SMTP Server That Automatically Copies Sent Mail to IMAP ("Sent" Folder)

      • Some SMTP providers (e.g., Gmail, Office 365) automatically store a copy of outgoing emails in the "Sent" folder when sending via SMTP.
      • If using Postfix, you can configure it to BCC outgoing emails to an IMAP mailbox.

      Postfix Example (Adding BCC for Sent Emails):
      sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf
      Add:  sender_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/bcc_map

      Create the BCC mapping file: 
      sudo nano /etc/postfix/bcc_map
      Add: @yourdomain.com archive@yourdomain.com

      Apply changes:
      sudo postmap /etc/postfix/bcc_map
      sudo systemctl restart postfix

    2. Use Odoo's "Aliases" Feature to Auto-Forward Sent Emails to an IMAP Folder

      • You can create an email alias in Odoo to automatically forward sent emails to a dedicated IMAP folder.
      • This workaround requires configuring mail forwarding on the SMTP server.
    3. Custom Odoo Module to Append Emails to IMAP "Sent" Folder

      • A custom Odoo module could be developed to use IMAP's APPEND command to store outgoing messages in a specified folder.


    Test the above workarounds and share the knowledge.

    Let me know if you, or somebody else, like to receive the workaround for Microsoft Exchange example.



    Best regards,


    Michel Stroom
    -- 

    Office Everywhere
    Business Partner Odoo

    t: +31 6 53360677
    e: mstroom@office-everywhere.com
    w: Office-Everywhere.com

    LinkedIn profile: https://linkedin.com/in/stroom



    On 6 Feb 2025, at 11:53, Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:

    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    

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    by Michel Stroom - 10:36 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

    Hi Frederik,

    ok, I better understand now. Just recently I sent an email campaign and noticed that it triggered responses (direct and indirect) to all sorts of models. So that nothing was missed, I went to technical settings > Discuss > Messages where I grouped by model and author, and browsed. 

    During this process, I found a couple of missed important messages from a month ago. This seems to better relate to your point.

    It was a clumsy experience and could quite easily be served with a better view.

    Best wishes,

    Stuart.


    On 07/02/2025 10:03, Frederik Kramer wrote:

    Hi Stuart,

    well, i think the way that you are proposing (using a subdomain) is something that is quite common (and is or at least was part of the formal documentation of Odoo even). However, still the "experience" using Mail to me is a little ackward (as of today). What i kind of dislike, is that even if you are able to "link" every mail to the chatter of practically every object in Odoo you don't really have a streamline view anywhere that allows you to see what mail came in or was sent out by or to a certain contact. Apart from that, i like to use inline quote in my mail threads and that is also something that just doesn't work very well even if you take the appropopriate OCA module. Of course copying and piping thinks with low level infrastructure means inside Linux / the Mailstack is an option but that way it becomes a pretty fragile architecture after all.

    All in all i always wonder if i am the only Person in the Odoo Community that isn't especially thrilled by the way Odoo handles E-Mail or do people just don't talk too much about it ?

    Thanks a lot for your helpful comments, anyway

    Cheers Frederik

    Am 07.02.25 um 09:47 schrieb Stuart J Mackintosh:

    Dear Frederik,

    I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

    However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

    The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

    Best wishes,

    Stuart.



    On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    

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    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247

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    Open Digital Consulting Co

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    UK: +44 20 36 27 90 40

    FR: +33 1 89 48 00 40

    Email: sjm@opendigital.cc

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    by Stuart J Mackintosh - 10:16 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
    A very old PR :)
    Sergio Corato


    Il giorno ven 7 feb 2025 alle ore 09:47 Stuart J Mackintosh <notifications@odoo-community.org> ha scritto:

    Dear Frederik,

    I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

    However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

    The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

    Best wishes,

    Stuart.



    On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    

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    Open Digital Consulting Co

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    FR: +33 1 89 48 00 40

    Email: sjm@opendigital.cc

    Web: https://opendigital.cc

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    by Sergio Corato - 10:06 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

    Hi Stuart,

    well, i think the way that you are proposing (using a subdomain) is something that is quite common (and is or at least was part of the formal documentation of Odoo even). However, still the "experience" using Mail to me is a little ackward (as of today). What i kind of dislike, is that even if you are able to "link" every mail to the chatter of practically every object in Odoo you don't really have a streamline view anywhere that allows you to see what mail came in or was sent out by or to a certain contact. Apart from that, i like to use inline quote in my mail threads and that is also something that just doesn't work very well even if you take the appropopriate OCA module. Of course copying and piping thinks with low level infrastructure means inside Linux / the Mailstack is an option but that way it becomes a pretty fragile architecture after all.

    All in all i always wonder if i am the only Person in the Odoo Community that isn't especially thrilled by the way Odoo handles E-Mail or do people just don't talk too much about it ?

    Thanks a lot for your helpful comments, anyway

    Cheers Frederik

    Am 07.02.25 um 09:47 schrieb Stuart J Mackintosh:

    Dear Frederik,

    I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

    However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

    The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

    Best wishes,

    Stuart.



    On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
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    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
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    by Frederik Kramer - 10:01 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

    Dear Frederik,

    I find the easiest way to set up email for Odoo is to create a subdomain for Odoo emails using a catch-all or aliases, separate from the chat emails of the people using mail clients.

    However if you want to have messages stored in an IMAP store, and depending on your familiarity with Linux, you could use various tools to forward or duplicate copies at transmission time. Such messages could then be delivered to IMAP boxes through pipemail, procmail, exim etc - a mail client can subscribe to the box and access the messages.

    The recipe would vary depending on exactly what you wanted to achieve, and bear in mind that outbound and inbound have separate life-cycles.

    Best wishes,

    Stuart.



    On 06/02/2025 11:53, Frederik Kramer wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
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    by Stuart J Mackintosh - 09:46 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Buy in one UOM and sell many UOM
    Hello:
    
    My customer buys beverages (for example Whisky) in 0,70 cl bottles, and sale in 3 different measures, for example short, medium and large, with 3 different prices. Of course I have defined this 4 UOM in Odoo, bottles (0,7 L) and short (/20), medium (/12) and large (/7).
    
    They want to control stock, as they know how many measures of each kind there is in a bottle. If I setup 3 different products with 3 different sale UOM I must make 3 different inputs in warehouse for each product. If I setup variants, I can have 3 different prices, but when I sell, Odoo reduce the stock by the sale UOM in the product, I can´t have a different UOM in each variant.
    
    What can I do to have 3 different sale prices, only 1 buy product, and control stock at the same time?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Enrique J. Sánchez Martínez.
    Proinfo.
    
    
    

    by Enrique J. Sanchez Martinez - 08:46 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails

    Hi Graeme,

    thanks for the hint. I will make sure watching it.

    Best Frederik

    Am 07.02.25 um 02:42 schrieb Graeme Gellatly:
    For Sales comms in particular, view C2C talk on converting Hubspot to Odoo CRM at last Odoo XP, highly underrated talk. That does allow using a traditional client and also gives a more modern approach to email management than simply an IMAP folder.

    On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:53 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
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    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
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    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
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    by Frederik Kramer - 08:25 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
    For Sales comms in particular, view C2C talk on converting Hubspot to Odoo CRM at last Odoo XP, highly underrated talk. That does allow using a traditional client and also gives a more modern approach to email management than simply an IMAP folder.

    On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 11:53 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    

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    by Graeme Gellatly - 02:41 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: [37226] Imap Sent Mails
    Is it to list the emails sent from Odoo in my name in the outbox of my Outlook?
    Not a common need in my past organizations.

    But then, we would avoid ever having a system send mail on a person's behalf.

    Maybe I still did not understand?


    On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 5:53 AM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
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    by joel.patrick - 01:16 - 7 Feb 2025
  • Re: Connecting weight scales to Odoo

    Hi Tom,

    indeed that is something that is a somewhat ridiclous result of European Regulation. I do agree though:

    As long as you break Media, in the sence of

    analog -> digital -> paper <-> scan -> digital

    the weighing would no longer be conceived "integrated" and the entire thing would be legally compilant.

    From a technical standpoint this is odd because

    1.) obviously the API of a scale could easily be made "read only", controlled by the internal architecture and thererfore practically immutable

    2.) printing something on paper (only to scan it immediatly after) is a waste of natural resources 

    But lawyer, politicans and other "high profile" staff needs something to work on and live from as well ;-)

    Cheers Frederik

    Am 06.02.25 um 11:43 schrieb Tom Blauwendraat:
    Note that there is also the option to use self-service weighing which 
    prints out a barcode sticker, which can then be scanned at the checkout 
    using standard Odoo barcode nomenclature.
    

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    by Frederik Kramer - 12:22 - 6 Feb 2025
  • Re: Odoo.sh Development Inquiry
    This is not the right place to ask that question - you should open a 
    support ticket with Odoo SA.
    
    On 2/6/25 11:58, Philip Parzygnat wrote:
    
    > Dea Odoo Community,
    
    > Will the official docker image 
    
    > https://github.com/odoo/docker-official-images support a neutral 
    
    > database import that was exported from Odoo.sh. If so (if not) what 
    
    > steps can I take to adopt my local environment to support a database 
    
    > export from Odoo.sh.
    
    > Thank you in advance.
    
    > Sincerely,
    
    > Phil
    
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    by Tom Blauwendraat - 12:16 - 6 Feb 2025
  • Survey XLSX module cannot be found on OCA shop page.
    Here is a brief report:

    When trying to open the Survey XLSX module on the OCA shop page, the following error occurs:
    "403: Forbidden
    The page you were looking for could not be authorized.
    Error message:
    Due to security restrictions, you are not allowed to access 'Product Template' (product.template) records.
    Contact your administrator to request access if necessary."

    However, the module can be viewed on the Odoo app store:
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/16.0/survey_xlsx

    It is also available on GitHub:
    https://github.com/OCA/survey

    Is there any specific reason why it is not displayed on the OCA shop page?


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    by Tatsuki Kanda - 11:55 - 6 Feb 2025
  • Odoo.sh Development Inquiry
    Dea Odoo Community,
    Will the official docker image https://github.com/odoo/docker-official-images support a neutral database import that was exported from Odoo.sh. If so (if not) what steps can I take to adopt my local environment to support a database export from Odoo.sh. 
    Thank you in advance.
    Sincerely,
    Phil

    by Philip Parzygnat - 11:55 - 6 Feb 2025
  • New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CET)
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!

    PS: Original mail from Virginie

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    by Denis Roussel - 11:51 - 6 Feb 2025
  • Re: New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CETT)
    Hello,

    Seems this email was not sent, I am trying it again.

    Virginie Dewulf
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    Le lun. 3 févr. 2025 à 11:50, Virginie Dewulf <virginie@odoo-community.org> a écrit :
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!
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    by Virginie Dewulf - 11:51 - 6 Feb 2025
  • New logo for the OCA modules: vote for your favorite option (Deadline 5th Feb at 9am CETT)
    Hello,

    Share your opinion by voting in Github here:

    The choice will follow the simple majority.

    Voting Deadline: Wednesday 5th February at 9am Central Europe Time.

    Have a beautiful week wherever you are!
    Virginie Dewulf
    Executive Director
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    by Virginie Dewulf - 11:50 - 6 Feb 2025
  • [37226] Imap Sent Mails
    Dear OCA,
    
    talking to a lead about Sales and Distribution, we again (as many times 
    in the past) again came across Odoos somewhat weired way to reinterpret 
    / resuse traditional E-Mail flows (what we all know, use, and are 
    familiar with by using Imap-Servers / Exchange and some form of E-Mail 
    clients (Outlook / Thunderbird). One of the weird things (among many) is 
    that Odoo (apart from the technical sent mail queue) doesn't make us of 
    the features (store sent mail in an IMAP Folder) as it sents Mail 
    through SMTP but not implements the traditional functionality of an 
    E-Mail client to allow storing such mail in an configurable Imap Folder. 
    By searching a solution for that i came across a 3rd party module
    
    https://apps.odoo.com/apps/modules/14.0/base_store_sent_emails
    
    I thought to myself that we are certainly not the only ones who have 
    this issue. So my question is. Is it really such an exotic feature that 
    nobody in the OCA ever even ideated on such a functionality or is it 
    worthless (i am simply to conservative to change my mind). Or even 
    better does some publicly available concept, module, code exist that i 
    am just not aware of ?
    
    Any thoughts, ideas on that
    
    Best and thanks for any reply upfront
    
    Frederik
    
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
    
    initOS GmbH
    Innungsstraße 7
    21244 Buchholz i.d.N.
    
    Tel:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 12
    Fax:   +49 (0) 4181 13503 10
    Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819
    
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Internet: www.initos.com
    
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N.
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    

    by Frederik Kramer - 11:45 - 6 Feb 2025