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  • Re: Please help review/suggest budget_management
    Hi Kitti,

    thanks a lot. I will review that module until the end of the week.
    For sure i will give you a feedback.

    Best regards

    Thorsten Vocks
    openBIG.org



    Am Mo., 9. Sept. 2019 um 14:27 Uhr schrieb Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>:
    Hi Thorsten,

    I have just created budget_management_sale,

    Please feel free to test and let me know if it works for your case.
    Kitti

    On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:43 PM Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
    Hi Thorsten,

    Thank you for your comments. That's certainly doable as budget_management_sale, and I have added it as pending todo list in the PR.

    Kind regards,

    On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:21 PM Thorsten Vocks <thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> wrote:
    Hello,

    in our german localisation project we also use mis_builder as a base ground to create our country specific P&L and balance sheet reports:
    I have just reviewed your detailed description and i think it is a very good contribution. 

    I would definitely also like a module budget_management_sale. That could help us a lot in nearly all EU countries to control a specific 
    requirement due to VAT threshold rules required for B2C retail business. In the combination with some new taxes, fiscal 
    positions and accounts per EU countries who receive goods from the main company located in another EU country a sales user would 
    receive a warning if sales to another EU country would pass the budgeted limit for that country.That would allow us to get a warning to 
    know when we have to deactivate a certain countrywise defined fiscal position in order to switch to the new fiscal position which should 
    be used after overpassing the threshold / budgeted values. 

    As especially retailers sometimes have automated workflows (f.e. sale order confirmation and invoice creation is automated), 
    furthermore it would be good to switch off the automatic warning / notification or to select between warning / notification and activity or message 
    notification in order to not strictly stop the sale workflow in any case. I also could imagine a functionality to select a server action, in our specific 
    use case the deactivation and reassignation of a new fiscal position including the required onchange of the taxes on the sale order lines 
    (in order to have 100% automatic calculation of the right taxes). 

    If such a module budget_management_sale would exist I could imagine that we would create a module budget_management_sale_b2c_retail_skr03 
    and budget_management_sale_b2c_retail_skr04 in our german localisation project with a dependency to budget_management_sale. In our module 
    we would create all the required accounts, taxes, fiscal positions to enable a quick setup. Furthermore we will define the required mis_template and  
    a budget for the year 2019, a budget control sheet with the pre-defined values published by the EU tax authorities.

    Thanks again for your contribution and i am looking forward to further feedback from others, especially from other localisation projects if they could 
    imagine same use case for their own country.

    Best regards

    Thorsten Vocks

    openBIG.org
    Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    Porscheweg 4-6
    49661 Cloppenburg

    Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org

                  


    Am Sa., 24. Aug. 2019 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>:
    Dear all,

    I would like to invite anyone interested in budgeting to help review the PR I am doing on budget management.


    I do understand that, budget management is quite specific to organization. But I have tried to put my own experiences in the generic way, and try to cover the basic use of real budget control in organizations.

    The PR is still marked as work in progress, though I am kinda done on my side.

    Please if you case help test (or read) and share your experiences or suggest features.

    Note: All I did is to make use of mis_builder_budget as much as it is already excellent tool.

    Many thanks,
    Kitti U.

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    by Thorsten Vocks - 08:40 - 10 Sep 2019
  • Re: Please help review/suggest budget_management
    Hi Thorsten,

    I have just created budget_management_sale,

    Please feel free to test and let me know if it works for your case.
    Kitti

    On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 6:43 PM Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
    Hi Thorsten,

    Thank you for your comments. That's certainly doable as budget_management_sale, and I have added it as pending todo list in the PR.

    Kind regards,

    On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 5:21 PM Thorsten Vocks <thorsten.vocks@big-consulting.net> wrote:
    Hello,

    in our german localisation project we also use mis_builder as a base ground to create our country specific P&L and balance sheet reports:
    I have just reviewed your detailed description and i think it is a very good contribution. 

    I would definitely also like a module budget_management_sale. That could help us a lot in nearly all EU countries to control a specific 
    requirement due to VAT threshold rules required for B2C retail business. In the combination with some new taxes, fiscal 
    positions and accounts per EU countries who receive goods from the main company located in another EU country a sales user would 
    receive a warning if sales to another EU country would pass the budgeted limit for that country.That would allow us to get a warning to 
    know when we have to deactivate a certain countrywise defined fiscal position in order to switch to the new fiscal position which should 
    be used after overpassing the threshold / budgeted values. 

    As especially retailers sometimes have automated workflows (f.e. sale order confirmation and invoice creation is automated), 
    furthermore it would be good to switch off the automatic warning / notification or to select between warning / notification and activity or message 
    notification in order to not strictly stop the sale workflow in any case. I also could imagine a functionality to select a server action, in our specific 
    use case the deactivation and reassignation of a new fiscal position including the required onchange of the taxes on the sale order lines 
    (in order to have 100% automatic calculation of the right taxes). 

    If such a module budget_management_sale would exist I could imagine that we would create a module budget_management_sale_b2c_retail_skr03 
    and budget_management_sale_b2c_retail_skr04 in our german localisation project with a dependency to budget_management_sale. In our module 
    we would create all the required accounts, taxes, fiscal positions to enable a quick setup. Furthermore we will define the required mis_template and  
    a budget for the year 2019, a budget control sheet with the pre-defined values published by the EU tax authorities.

    Thanks again for your contribution and i am looking forward to further feedback from others, especially from other localisation projects if they could 
    imagine same use case for their own country.

    Best regards

    Thorsten Vocks

    openBIG.org
    Dipl. Kaufmann (FH)
    Porscheweg 4-6
    49661 Cloppenburg

    Phone: +49 4471 8409000
    Fax: +49 4471 84090009
    Mail: thorsten.vocks@openbig.org

                  


    Am Sa., 24. Aug. 2019 um 08:12 Uhr schrieb Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>:
    Dear all,

    I would like to invite anyone interested in budgeting to help review the PR I am doing on budget management.


    I do understand that, budget management is quite specific to organization. But I have tried to put my own experiences in the generic way, and try to cover the basic use of real budget control in organizations.

    The PR is still marked as work in progress, though I am kinda done on my side.

    Please if you case help test (or read) and share your experiences or suggest features.

    Note: All I did is to make use of mis_builder_budget as much as it is already excellent tool.

    Many thanks,
    Kitti U.

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    by Kitti Upariphutthiphong - 02:26 - 9 Sep 2019
  • Re: Odoo iCal synchronization Caldav
    Theres this approach from Holger!




    Mit freundlichen Grüßen

    We look forward to see you. Best Regards

    Dipl. Ing. (Fh) Georg Notter

    Agent ERP GmbH

    www.agenterp.com

    Am 07.09.2019 um 19:42 schrieb Sébastien COURATIN <sebastien-couratin@semperco.fr>:


    Dear colleagues,

    I know it's a longstanding topic. But I do not understand that the need is not important.

    Before OpenERP knew how to do caldav. Now it's a Google sync tool that is not wonderful at all.

    Caldav is robust and can handle end-to-end.

    I found a module of Open Tech S.L but I have trouble implementing it.

    If anyone has a solution ! I am very interested.

    Best regards,

    Sébastien COURATIN

    Semper Connect
    68 Rue George Coubard
    91 800 BOUSSY-SAINT-ANTOINE

    01 85 48 06 55
    télécharger mon application de prise en main à distance
    Administration-informatique-événementiel
    www.semper-connect.fr


    Demeurez numériquement libre ...

    Post-scriptum 

    Ce message est confidentiel. Sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Semper Connect. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n’êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l’expéditeur.


    by Georg Notter - 07:55 - 7 Sep 2019
  • Odoo iCal synchronization Caldav

    Dear colleagues,

    I know it's a longstanding topic. But I do not understand that the need is not important.

    Before OpenERP knew how to do caldav. Now it's a Google sync tool that is not wonderful at all.

    Caldav is robust and can handle end-to-end.

    I found a module of Open Tech S.L but I have trouble implementing it.

    If anyone has a solution ! I am very interested.

    Best regards,

    Sébastien COURATIN

    Semper Connect
    68 Rue George Coubard
    91 800 BOUSSY-SAINT-ANTOINE

    01 85 48 06 55
    télécharger mon application de prise en main à distance
    Administration-informatique-événementiel
    www.semper-connect.fr


    Demeurez numériquement libre ...

    Post-scriptum 

    Ce message est confidentiel. Sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et Semper Connect. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n’êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l’expéditeur.


    by Sébastien COURATIN - 07:41 - 7 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    +1 for OCA/contract

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    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:22 AM Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    +1 for me then for this option. Let's try to see if any synergies are possible.

    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    I had originally given this a look and decided it was not cut for our
    needs, but upon reflection, it does look like at least a nice place to
    host the modules.
    
    If noone objects I'll make the PRs there (and rename my models...)
    
    Alexandre
    
    On 05/09/2019 09:52, David Beal wrote:
    
    
    
    > Hi Alexandre,
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > If I  understand the purpose, sale term condition, it's the exact scope of
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement
    
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement_sale
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > also existing in v10 with agreement_sale and agreement_account
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > The objective here is just to have a minimal object, agnostic and
    
    
    
    > versatile object
    
    
    
    > agreement means : "commercial term conditions" exactly (with your
    
    
    
    > customers and suppliers)
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Maxime based its work about legal_agreement on top of it
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Then I propose than you build your modules on top of these, adding your
    
    
    
    > needs on this simple object
    
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/blob/12.0/agreement/models/agreement.py
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > EDI repo (and other dependencies) made by Alexis de Lattre use agreement.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > If you build another base object, then customer who want to use both
    
    
    
    > will have redondant data !
    
    
    
    > If you want move agrement_sale to another repo, it's not a problem for me.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > my 2 cts
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Thanks
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > David BEAL - akretion.com 
    
    
    
    > Chef de projet
    
    
    
    > Odoo Développement / Intégration
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)
    
    
    
    >  a écrit :
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    >     Please don't use plurals in the module name for following
    
    
    
    >     guidelines. Take also into account
    
    
    
    >     https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule
    
    
    
    >     that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one
    
    
    
    >     of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to
    
    
    
    >     delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    >     Regards.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
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    by Maxime Chambreuil - 03:00 - 5 Sep 2019
  • base_user_locale: configure locale settings
    Dear community,

    I’d like to request feedback and ideas regarding https://github.com/OCA/server-ux/pull/86 which is intended to override some locale settings on per-user basis without affecting locale settings in general.

    Kind regards,
    Alexey

    by Alexey Pelykh <alexey.pelykh@gmail.com> - 01:51 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Request for new repository sale-terms-conditions
    Request Cancelled: oca/contract exists and is a suitable place.
    
    On 05/09/2019 10:21, Alexandre Fayolle wrote:
    
    > Hello Pedro,
    
    > 
    
    > Not everything is related to delivery. We have other aspects related to
    
    > order preparation, order invoicing for instance.
    
    > 
    
    > Regarding the naming proposition, I was first thinking of the repository
    
    > name (and should have used hyphens instead of underscores). However,
    
    > "Term & Condition" does not exist in english. This expression is always
    
    > using the plural form. In my opinion you should think of the final 's'
    
    > as part of the spelling, as in "logistics". In any case, I would really
    
    > like to avoid sale_term_multi_and_condition_multi ;-)
    
    > 
    
    > Can we create a new repository sale-terms-conditions?
    
    > 
    
    > Alexandre
    
    > 
    
    > On 05/09/2019 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) wrote:
    
    >> Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines.
    
    >> Take also into account
    
    >> https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule
    
    >> that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of
    
    >> the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I
    
    >> would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.
    
    >>
    
    >> Regards.
    
    >>
    
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    >>
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    
    
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    by Alexandre Fayolle - 11:36 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    +1 for me then for this option. Let's try to see if any synergies are possible.

    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:11 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    I had originally given this a look and decided it was not cut for our
    needs, but upon reflection, it does look like at least a nice place to
    host the modules.
    
    If noone objects I'll make the PRs there (and rename my models...)
    
    Alexandre
    
    On 05/09/2019 09:52, David Beal wrote:
    
    
    > Hi Alexandre,
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > If I  understand the purpose, sale term condition, it's the exact scope of
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement_sale
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > also existing in v10 with agreement_sale and agreement_account
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > The objective here is just to have a minimal object, agnostic and
    
    
    > versatile object
    
    
    > agreement means : "commercial term conditions" exactly (with your
    
    
    > customers and suppliers)
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Maxime based its work about legal_agreement on top of it
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Then I propose than you build your modules on top of these, adding your
    
    
    > needs on this simple object
    
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/blob/12.0/agreement/models/agreement.py
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > EDI repo (and other dependencies) made by Alexis de Lattre use agreement.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > If you build another base object, then customer who want to use both
    
    
    > will have redondant data !
    
    
    > If you want move agrement_sale to another repo, it's not a problem for me.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > my 2 cts
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Thanks
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > David BEAL - akretion.com 
    
    
    > Chef de projet
    
    
    > Odoo Développement / Intégration
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)
    
    
    >  a écrit :
    
    
    > 
    
    
    >     Please don't use plurals in the module name for following
    
    
    >     guidelines. Take also into account
    
    
    >     https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule
    
    
    >     that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one
    
    
    >     of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to
    
    
    >     delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    >     Regards.
    
    
    > 
    
    
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    by Joël Grand Guillaume - 11:20 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    I had originally given this a look and decided it was not cut for our
    needs, but upon reflection, it does look like at least a nice place to
    host the modules.
    
    If noone objects I'll make the PRs there (and rename my models...)
    
    Alexandre
    
    On 05/09/2019 09:52, David Beal wrote:
    
    > Hi Alexandre,
    
    > 
    
    > If I  understand the purpose, sale term condition, it's the exact scope of
    
    > 
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/tree/12.0/agreement_sale
    
    > 
    
    > also existing in v10 with agreement_sale and agreement_account
    
    > 
    
    > The objective here is just to have a minimal object, agnostic and
    
    > versatile object
    
    > agreement means : "commercial term conditions" exactly (with your
    
    > customers and suppliers)
    
    > 
    
    > Maxime based its work about legal_agreement on top of it
    
    > 
    
    > Then I propose than you build your modules on top of these, adding your
    
    > needs on this simple object
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/contract/blob/12.0/agreement/models/agreement.py
    
    > 
    
    > EDI repo (and other dependencies) made by Alexis de Lattre use agreement.
    
    > 
    
    > If you build another base object, then customer who want to use both
    
    > will have redondant data !
    
    > If you want move agrement_sale to another repo, it's not a problem for me.
    
    > 
    
    > my 2 cts
    
    > 
    
    > Thanks
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > David BEAL - akretion.com 
    
    > Chef de projet
    
    > Odoo Développement / Intégration
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa)
    
    >  a écrit :
    
    > 
    
    >     Please don't use plurals in the module name for following
    
    >     guidelines. Take also into account
    
    >     https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule
    
    >     that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one
    
    >     of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to
    
    >     delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.
    
    > 
    
    >     Regards.
    
    > 
    
    >     _______________________________________________
    
    >     Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    >     Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
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    > 
    
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    by Alexandre Fayolle - 11:10 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    I'm with David. contract is the right repo, if not a new repo called sale_contract. Terms and conditions form part of the contract with the customer, so it is most appropriate name. Indeed they are often called contractual terms.

    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 7:52 PM David Beal <david.beal@akretion.com> wrote:
    Hi Alexandre,

    If I  understand the purpose, sale term condition, it's the exact scope of


    also existing in v10 with agreement_sale and agreement_account

    The objective here is just to have a minimal object, agnostic and versatile object
    agreement means : "commercial term conditions" exactly (with your customers and suppliers)

    Maxime based its work about legal_agreement on top of it

    Then I propose than you build your modules on top of these, adding your needs on this simple object

    EDI repo (and other dependencies) made by Alexis de Lattre use agreement.

    If you build another base object, then customer who want to use both will have redondant data !
    If you want move agrement_sale to another repo, it's not a problem for me.

    my 2 cts

    Thanks


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    Chef de projet
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    Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines. Take also into account https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.

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    by Graeme Gellatly - 10:36 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Request for new repository sale-terms-conditions
    Hello Pedro,
    
    Not everything is related to delivery. We have other aspects related to
    order preparation, order invoicing for instance.
    
    Regarding the naming proposition, I was first thinking of the repository
    name (and should have used hyphens instead of underscores). However,
    "Term & Condition" does not exist in english. This expression is always
    using the plural form. In my opinion you should think of the final 's'
    as part of the spelling, as in "logistics". In any case, I would really
    like to avoid sale_term_multi_and_condition_multi ;-)
    
    Can we create a new repository sale-terms-conditions?
    
    Alexandre
    
    On 05/09/2019 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) wrote:
    
    > Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines.
    
    > Take also into account
    
    > https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule
    
    > that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of
    
    > the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I
    
    > would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.
    
    > 
    
    > Regards.
    
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    by Alexandre Fayolle - 10:26 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules

    But the sets of modules we're talking about is more about defining parameters on terms, that can be customized at customer level. So it is more a generic way to deal with terms and parameters linked to customer orders.

    Then each of those parameter will probably call some features (distributed across several area: deliveries, invoicing, etc..)

    So we're looking to where we should push those set of modules (for the parameters as described here https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694).

    Can we vote ?

    1) include in delivery
    2) Include in sale-workflow
    3) include in contract
    4) or agreed for a new repo sale-term-condition

    I vote for 4) as it is not only linked to deliveries or sales nor contract (in the meaning of the current set of modules that mostly deal with contract with customers, not really on the definition of services.

    Regards,

    Joël


    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:12 AM Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> wrote:
    Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines. Take also into account https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.

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    by Joël Grand Guillaume - 09:51 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    Hi Alexandre,

    If I  understand the purpose, sale term condition, it's the exact scope of


    also existing in v10 with agreement_sale and agreement_account

    The objective here is just to have a minimal object, agnostic and versatile object
    agreement means : "commercial term conditions" exactly (with your customers and suppliers)

    Maxime based its work about legal_agreement on top of it

    Then I propose than you build your modules on top of these, adding your needs on this simple object

    EDI repo (and other dependencies) made by Alexis de Lattre use agreement.

    If you build another base object, then customer who want to use both will have redondant data !
    If you want move agrement_sale to another repo, it's not a problem for me.

    my 2 cts

    Thanks


    David BEAL - akretion.com
    Chef de projet
    Odoo Développement / Intégration


    Le jeu. 5 sept. 2019 à 01:12, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines. Take also into account https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.

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    by David BEAL - 09:50 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    Please don't use plurals in the module name for following guidelines. Take also into account https://github.com/OCA/delivery-carrier/tree/11.0/partner_delivery_schedule that already allows to set delivery slots for partners, which is one of the concepts you are defining. If everything is related to delivery, I would put modules in OCA/delivery-carrier.

    Regards.

    by Pedro M. Baeza - 01:11 - 5 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    For me "sale_terms_conditions" is the better name.

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    Il 04/09/2019 18:16, Alexandre Fayolle ha scritto:
    I see what you mean... This module is about the services you agree to
    provide to a customer as part of a sales, as part of the terms and
    conditions of the sale orders, and not about service products that are
    sold in the sale order.
    
    Do you think sale_terms_conditions be a better name? Something else?
    
    Alexandre
    
    
    On 04/09/2019 17:32, Maxime Chambreuil wrote:
    
    > I am not sure the term service is a good fit here, as everything seems
    
    > to be related to products.
    
    > 
    
    > What about OCA/sale-delivery?
    
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    > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:12 AM Stéphane Bidoul
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    >     A new repo sounds good to me. Do we need a new PSC too?
    
    > 
    
    >     On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Joël Grand-Guillaume
    
    >     <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com
    
    >     <mailto:joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com>> wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >         Hi,
    
    > 
    
    >         I vote for option #1: "new repository
    
    >         oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"
    
    > 
    
    >         Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone
    
    >         to contribute a new parameter.
    
    > 
    
    >         Cheers,
    
    > 
    
    >         Joël
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    >         On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis
    
    >          wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >             Hi Alex,
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    >             Great news!
    
    > 
    
    >             Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should
    
    >             maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it
    
    >             on customer level for purchases.
    
    > 
    
    >             On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle
    
    >             <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com
    
    >             <mailto:alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com>> wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >                 Hello all,
    
    > 
    
    >                 In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    
    >                 working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    > 
    
    >                 The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    
    >                 the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    
    >                 default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    
    >                 sale order.
    
    > 
    
    >                 Typically the parameters could be:
    
    > 
    
    >                 * management of backorders
    
    >                 * days of delivery
    
    >                 * hour of delivery
    
    >                 * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    
    >                 * packaging details in the invoice
    
    >                 * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    
    >                 10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    
    >                 containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    
    >                 containing a singe product reference)
    
    >                 * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    > 
    
    >                 The basic set of user stories is available in
    
    >                 https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    
    >                 will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    > 
    
    >                 I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    
    >                 required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    
    >                 and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    
    >                 different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    
    >                 packaging, invoicing...)
    
    > 
    
    >                 I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    
    >                 what repository to target:
    
    > 
    
    >                 * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    
    >                 go there
    
    >                 * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    
    >                 module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    
    >                 dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    
    >                 the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    
    >                 stock-logistics-*
    
    >                 * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    
    >                 contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    
    >                 lots of cross dependencies
    
    >                 * elsewhere ?
    
    > 
    
    >                 Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    > 
    
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    by Antonio M. Vigliotti - 08:31 - 4 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    I see what you mean... This module is about the services you agree to
    provide to a customer as part of a sales, as part of the terms and
    conditions of the sale orders, and not about service products that are
    sold in the sale order.
    
    Do you think sale_terms_conditions be a better name? Something else?
    
    Alexandre
    
    
    On 04/09/2019 17:32, Maxime Chambreuil wrote:
    
    > I am not sure the term service is a good fit here, as everything seems
    
    > to be related to products.
    
    > 
    
    > What about OCA/sale-delivery?
    
    > 
    
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    > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:12 AM Stéphane Bidoul
    >  wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >     A new repo sounds good to me. Do we need a new PSC too?
    
    > 
    
    >     On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Joël Grand-Guillaume
    
    >     <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com
    
    >     <mailto:joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com>> wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >         Hi,
    
    > 
    
    >         I vote for option #1: "new repository
    
    >         oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"
    
    > 
    
    >         Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone
    
    >         to contribute a new parameter.
    
    > 
    
    >         Cheers,
    
    > 
    
    >         Joël
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    >         On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis
    
    >          wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >             Hi Alex,
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    >             Great news!
    
    > 
    
    >             Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should
    
    >             maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it
    
    >             on customer level for purchases.
    
    > 
    
    >             On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle
    
    >             <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com
    
    >             <mailto:alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com>> wrote:
    
    > 
    
    >                 Hello all,
    
    > 
    
    >                 In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    
    >                 working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    > 
    
    >                 The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    
    >                 the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    
    >                 default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    
    >                 sale order.
    
    > 
    
    >                 Typically the parameters could be:
    
    > 
    
    >                 * management of backorders
    
    >                 * days of delivery
    
    >                 * hour of delivery
    
    >                 * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    
    >                 * packaging details in the invoice
    
    >                 * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    
    >                 10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    
    >                 containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    
    >                 containing a singe product reference)
    
    >                 * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    > 
    
    >                 The basic set of user stories is available in
    
    >                 https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    
    >                 will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    > 
    
    >                 I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    
    >                 required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    
    >                 and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    
    >                 different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    
    >                 packaging, invoicing...)
    
    > 
    
    >                 I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    
    >                 what repository to target:
    
    > 
    
    >                 * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    
    >                 go there
    
    >                 * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    
    >                 module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    
    >                 dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    
    >                 the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    
    >                 stock-logistics-*
    
    >                 * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    
    >                 contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    
    >                 lots of cross dependencies
    
    >                 * elsewhere ?
    
    > 
    
    >                 Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    > 
    
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    by Alexandre Fayolle - 06:15 - 4 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    Service is not a good name. It is confusing, because there is service are usually used as not physical products (Fees, reparation services...)
     
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    From: Maxime Chambreuil <mchambreuil@opensourceintegrators.com>
    To: "Contributors" <contributors@odoo-community.org>
    Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:32:16 -0000
    Subject: Re: Service definition modules
     
    I am not sure the term service is a good fit here, as everything seems to be related to products.
     
    What about OCA/sale-delivery?
     
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    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:12 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
    A new repo sounds good to me. Do we need a new PSC too?
     
    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hi,
     
    I vote for option #1: "new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"
     
    Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone to contribute a new parameter.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Joël
     
     
    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    Hi Alex,
     
     
    Great news!
     
    Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it on customer level for purchases.
     
    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hello all,
    
    In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    sale order.
    
    Typically the parameters could be:
    
    * management of backorders
    * days of delivery
    * hour of delivery
    * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    * packaging details in the invoice
    * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    containing a singe product reference)
    * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    The basic set of user stories is available in
    https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    packaging, invoicing...)
    
    I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    what repository to target:
    
    * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    go there
    * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    stock-logistics-*
    * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    lots of cross dependencies
    * elsewhere ?
    
    Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    -- 
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    Chef de Projet
    Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30
    
    Camptocamp France SAS
    18 rue du Lac Saint André
    73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac
    France
    
    http://www.camptocamp.com
    
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    by Enric Tobella Alomar - 05:45 - 4 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    I am not sure the term service is a good fit here, as everything seems to be related to products.

    What about OCA/sale-delivery?

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    O: 1.855.877.2377 EXT. 710
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    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:12 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
    A new repo sounds good to me. Do we need a new PSC too?

    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    I vote for option #1: "new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"

    Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone to contribute a new parameter.

    Cheers,

    Joël


    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    Hi Alex,


    Great news!

    Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it on customer level for purchases.

    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hello all,
    
    In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    sale order.
    
    Typically the parameters could be:
    
    * management of backorders
    * days of delivery
    * hour of delivery
    * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    * packaging details in the invoice
    * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    containing a singe product reference)
    * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    The basic set of user stories is available in
    https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    packaging, invoicing...)
    
    I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    what repository to target:
    
    * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    go there
    * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    stock-logistics-*
    * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    lots of cross dependencies
    * elsewhere ?
    
    Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    -- 
    Alexandre Fayolle
    Chef de Projet
    Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30
    
    Camptocamp France SAS
    18 rue du Lac Saint André
    73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac
    France
    
    http://www.camptocamp.com
    

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    by Maxime Chambreuil - 05:31 - 4 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    A new repo sounds good to me. Do we need a new PSC too?

    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:52 PM Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    I vote for option #1: "new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"

    Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone to contribute a new parameter.

    Cheers,

    Joël


    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    Hi Alex,


    Great news!

    Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it on customer level for purchases.

    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hello all,
    
    In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    sale order.
    
    Typically the parameters could be:
    
    * management of backorders
    * days of delivery
    * hour of delivery
    * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    * packaging details in the invoice
    * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    containing a singe product reference)
    * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    The basic set of user stories is available in
    https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    packaging, invoicing...)
    
    I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    what repository to target:
    
    * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    go there
    * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    stock-logistics-*
    * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    lots of cross dependencies
    * elsewhere ?
    
    Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    
    
    
    
    -- 
    Alexandre Fayolle
    Chef de Projet
    Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30
    
    Camptocamp France SAS
    18 rue du Lac Saint André
    73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac
    France
    
    http://www.camptocamp.com
    

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    by Stéphane Bidoul - 05:11 - 4 Sep 2019
  • Re: Service definition modules
    Hi,

    I vote for option #1: "new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons go there"

    Those sets of modules make sense on it own and will allow anyone to contribute a new parameter.

    Cheers,

    Joël


    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:57 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    Hi Alex,


    Great news!

    Just a little remark : IMHO, this business process should maybe be a little bit generic as you may want to manage it on customer level for purchases.

    On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
    Hello all,
    
    In relation with the WMS modules Camptocamp is currently working on, I'm
    working on a set of modules to manage service definition.
    
    The idea is to be able to store a set of service levels agreed on with
    the customer, with a number of parameters which are specified, and have
    default values, but can be customized for a given customer, or a given
    sale order.
    
    Typically the parameters could be:
    
    * management of backorders
    * days of delivery
    * hour of delivery
    * invoicing per order (with order reference) or invoicing per delivey
    * packaging details in the invoice
    * product grouping preference (e.g. a customer could ask for an order of
    10 product1, 10 product2, 10 product3 to be packages in 10 parcels
    containing each 1 product1, 1 product2, 1 product3 instead of 3 packages
    containing a singe product reference)
    * constraints on the delivery truck (max dimension, max weight)...
    
    The basic set of user stories is available in
    https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-warehouse/issues/694 (this issue
    will be moved to a better place once we've answerd the question below)
    
    I'm planning to build this as a base module providing the models
    required to define the service definitions, and set this on a customer
    and on a sale order (+ propagation to invoices and deliveries), +
    different smaller modules related to the different aspects (deliveries,
    packaging, invoicing...)
    
    I would like to propose these as alpha modules in the OCA but I'm unsure
    what repository to target:
    
    * option 1: new repository oca/sale-service-definition, all the addons
    go there
    * option 2: in repository oca/sale-workflow, at least for the base
    module, but then I'm not comfortable in adding cross repository
    dependencies, because some of the other modules would probably live in
    the WMS repository, others in sale-workflow, others in some maybe in
    stock-logistics-*
    * option 3: in repository oca/contract because this is related to sale
    contract, but I'd like to avoid polluting a self contained module with
    lots of cross dependencies
    * elsewhere ?
    
    Dear contributors, what would be the best course of action in your opinion?
    
    
    
    
    -- 
    Alexandre Fayolle
    Chef de Projet
    Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30
    
    Camptocamp France SAS
    18 rue du Lac Saint André
    73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac
    France
    
    http://www.camptocamp.com
    

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    by Joël Grand Guillaume - 04:51 - 4 Sep 2019