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  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Monday 2 PM CET is OK for me, as well. I'll try to stay as much as possible.

    Daniel, maybe we could have this discussion call by Discord, as well?

    El vie, 11 jun 2021 a las 12:22, Daniel Reis (<dreis@opensourceintegrators.com>) escribió:
    Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
    Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
    Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.

    Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
    An initial discussion call would still be useful.

    Thanks
    Daniel

    On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
    If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

    WDYT?



    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi folks, 
    
    from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
    Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
    scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
    Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
    up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:
    
    
    
    > Hello, thank you for bringing this up.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > I am available to collaborate.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.
    
    
    
    > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super
    
    
    
    > reduced.
    
    
    
    > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira
    
    
    
    > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not
    
    
    
    > the only country.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.
    
    
    
    > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting
    
    
    
    > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-
    
    
    
    > invoicing?
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Thanks
    
    
    
    > Daniel
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:
    
    
    
    > > Hi all,
    
    
    
    > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 
    
    
    
    > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    
    
    
    > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by
    
    
    
    > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    
    
    
    > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,
    
    
    
    > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    
    
    
    > > What planned implementation would do?
    
    
    
    > > Sergio Corato
    
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    
    > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <
    
    
    
    > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    
    
    
    > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.
    
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.
    
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you
    
    
    
    > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.
    
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT
    
    
    
    > > > laws. This one is going to be different.
    
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to
    
    
    
    > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.
    
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<
    
    
    
    > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    
    
    
    > > > > Hi Harald, 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However
    
    
    
    > > > > even
    
    
    
    > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a
    
    
    
    > > > > couple
    
    
    
    > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per
    
    
    
    > > > > use
    
    
    
    > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    
    
    
    > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    
    
    
    > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority
    
    
    
    > > > > collecting the
    
    
    
    > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems
    
    
    
    > > > > to be
    
    
    
    > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of
    
    
    
    > > > > creating a
    
    
    
    > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of
    
    
    
    > > > > he German
    
    
    
    > > > > authorities).
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to
    
    
    
    > > > > be
    
    
    
    > > > > solve european wide. 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from
    
    
    
    > > > > member
    
    
    
    > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market
    
    
    
    > > > > place
    
    
    
    > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global
    
    
    
    > > > > fullfilment or
    
    
    
    > > > > alike
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > Best Frederik
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald
    
    
    
    > > > > Panten Lopez:
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > Hi Community,
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly
    
    
    
    > > > > (1st of
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > More info:
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind
    
    
    
    > > > > of
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any
    
    
    
    > > > > European
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > partner working on this?
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we
    
    
    
    > > > > were
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is
    
    
    
    > > > > to "join
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the
    
    
    
    > > > > ideology
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    
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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 01:00 - 11 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
    Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
    Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.

    Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
    An initial discussion call would still be useful.

    Thanks
    Daniel

    On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
    If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

    WDYT?



    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi folks, 
    
    from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
    Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
    scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
    Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
    up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:
    
    
    > Hello, thank you for bringing this up.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > I am available to collaborate.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.
    
    
    > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super
    
    
    > reduced.
    
    
    > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira
    
    
    > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not
    
    
    > the only country.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.
    
    
    > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting
    
    
    > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-
    
    
    > invoicing?
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Thanks
    
    
    > Daniel
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:
    
    
    > > Hi all,
    
    
    > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 
    
    
    > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    
    
    > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by
    
    
    > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    
    
    > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,
    
    
    > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    
    
    > > What planned implementation would do?
    
    
    > > Sergio Corato
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <
    
    
    > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    
    
    > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you
    
    
    > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT
    
    
    > > > laws. This one is going to be different.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to
    
    
    > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<
    
    
    > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    
    
    > > > > Hi Harald, 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However
    
    
    > > > > even
    
    
    > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a
    
    
    > > > > couple
    
    
    > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per
    
    
    > > > > use
    
    
    > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    
    
    > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    
    
    > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority
    
    
    > > > > collecting the
    
    
    > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems
    
    
    > > > > to be
    
    
    > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of
    
    
    > > > > creating a
    
    
    > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of
    
    
    > > > > he German
    
    
    > > > > authorities).
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to
    
    
    > > > > be
    
    
    > > > > solve european wide. 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from
    
    
    > > > > member
    
    
    > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market
    
    
    > > > > place
    
    
    > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global
    
    
    > > > > fullfilment or
    
    
    > > > > alike
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Best Frederik
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald
    
    
    > > > > Panten Lopez:
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Hi Community,
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly
    
    
    > > > > (1st of
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > More info:
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind
    
    
    > > > > of
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any
    
    
    > > > > European
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > partner working on this?
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we
    
    
    > > > > were
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is
    
    
    > > > > to "join
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the
    
    
    > > > > ideology
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Regards,
    
    
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    > > > > > Harald Panten López
    
    
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    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > CEO
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
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    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    
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    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
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    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    
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    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    
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    > > > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    
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    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Harald Panten López
    
    
    > > > CEO
    
    
    > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    
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    by Daniel Reis - 12:21 - 11 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

    WDYT?



    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi folks, 
    
    from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
    Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
    scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
    Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
    up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:
    
    
    > Hello, thank you for bringing this up.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > I am available to collaborate.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.
    
    
    > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super
    
    
    > reduced.
    
    
    > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira
    
    
    > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not
    
    
    > the only country.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.
    
    
    > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting
    
    
    > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-
    
    
    > invoicing?
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Thanks
    
    
    > Daniel
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:
    
    
    > > Hi all,
    
    
    > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 
    
    
    > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    
    
    > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by
    
    
    > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    
    
    > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,
    
    
    > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    
    
    > > What planned implementation would do?
    
    
    > > Sergio Corato
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > 
    
    
    > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <
    
    
    > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    
    
    > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you
    
    
    > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT
    
    
    > > > laws. This one is going to be different.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to
    
    
    > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<
    
    
    > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    
    
    > > > > Hi Harald, 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However
    
    
    > > > > even
    
    
    > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a
    
    
    > > > > couple
    
    
    > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per
    
    
    > > > > use
    
    
    > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    
    
    > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    
    
    > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority
    
    
    > > > > collecting the
    
    
    > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems
    
    
    > > > > to be
    
    
    > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of
    
    
    > > > > creating a
    
    
    > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of
    
    
    > > > > he German
    
    
    > > > > authorities).
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to
    
    
    > > > > be
    
    
    > > > > solve european wide. 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from
    
    
    > > > > member
    
    
    > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market
    
    
    > > > > place
    
    
    > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global
    
    
    > > > > fullfilment or
    
    
    > > > > alike
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Best Frederik
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald
    
    
    > > > > Panten Lopez:
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Hi Community,
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly
    
    
    > > > > (1st of
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > More info:
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind
    
    
    > > > > of
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any
    
    
    > > > > European
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > partner working on this?
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we
    
    
    > > > > were
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is
    
    
    > > > > to "join
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the
    
    
    > > > > ideology
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Regards,
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > -- 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Harald Panten López
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > CEO
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    
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    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
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    > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    
    
    > > > > Geschäftsführer
    
    
    > > > >         
    
    
    > > > > initOS GmbH
    
    
    > > > > An der Eisenbahn 1
    
    
    > > > > 21224 Rosengarten
    
    
    > > > >         
    
    
    > > > > Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    
    
    > > > > Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    
    
    > > > > Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
    
    
    > > > >         
    
    
    > > > > Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    
    
    > > > > Web:   www.initos.com
    
    
    > > > >         
    
    
    > > > > Geschäftsführung:
    
    
    > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
    > > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    
    
    > > > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    
    
    > > > > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    
    > > > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    
    > > > > 
    
    
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    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > -- 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > Harald Panten López
    
    
    > > > CEO
    
    
    > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    
    > > >  
    
    
    > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
    > > > 
    
    
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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 10:25 - 11 Jun 2021
  • Odoo Customer List.

    Hello,

     

    I would like to know if you are interested in acquiring Odoo Customer List.

    Information fields: Names, Title, Email, Phone, Company Name, Company URL, Company physical address, SIC Code, Industry and Specialty (Revenue and Employee).

     

    Let me know if you are interested and I will get back to you with the counts and pricing.                                

                                                                                                                     

    Shanika Rathnayake

    Marketing Executive

     

    Please get back to me with your target market criteria in the subject line.

                                                                                                                                                                              

     

     

                   

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

                                            


    by "Shanika Rathnayake" <shanika.rathnayake@instantleads.tech> - 07:51 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi folks, 
    
    from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
    Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
    scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
    Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
    up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:
    
    > Hello, thank you for bringing this up.
    
    > 
    
    > I am available to collaborate.
    
    > 
    
    > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.
    
    > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super
    
    > reduced.
    
    > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira
    
    > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not
    
    > the only country.
    
    > 
    
    > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.
    
    > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting
    
    > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-
    
    > invoicing?
    
    > 
    
    > Thanks
    
    > Daniel
    
    > 
    
    > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:
    
    > > Hi all,
    
    > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 
    
    > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    
    > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by
    
    > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    
    > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,
    
    > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    
    > > What planned implementation would do?
    
    > > Sergio Corato
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <
    
    > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    
    > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you
    
    > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT
    
    > > > laws. This one is going to be different.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to
    
    > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<
    
    > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    
    > > > > Hi Harald, 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However
    
    > > > > even
    
    > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a
    
    > > > > couple
    
    > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per
    
    > > > > use
    
    > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    
    > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    
    > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority
    
    > > > > collecting the
    
    > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems
    
    > > > > to be
    
    > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of
    
    > > > > creating a
    
    > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of
    
    > > > > he German
    
    > > > > authorities).
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to
    
    > > > > be
    
    > > > > solve european wide. 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from
    
    > > > > member
    
    > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market
    
    > > > > place
    
    > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global
    
    > > > > fullfilment or
    
    > > > > alike
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > Best Frederik
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald
    
    > > > > Panten Lopez:
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Hi Community,
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly
    
    > > > > (1st of
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > More info:
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind
    
    > > > > of
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any
    
    > > > > European
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > partner working on this?
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we
    
    > > > > were
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is
    
    > > > > to "join
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the
    
    > > > > ideology
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > proposed by OCA.
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Regards,
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > -- 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Harald Panten López
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > CEO
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > _______________________________________________
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Mailing-List: 
    
    > > > > https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > -- 
    
    > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    
    > > > > Geschäftsführer
    
    > > > >         
    
    > > > > initOS GmbH
    
    > > > > An der Eisenbahn 1
    
    > > > > 21224 Rosengarten
    
    > > > >         
    
    > > > > Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    
    > > > > Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    
    > > > > Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
    
    > > > >         
    
    > > > > Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    
    > > > > Web:   www.initos.com
    
    > > > >         
    
    > > > > Geschäftsführung:
    
    > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    
    > > > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    
    > > > > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    
    > > > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    > > > > 
    
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    > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    > > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > -- 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Harald Panten López
    
    > > > CEO
    
    > > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > >  
    
    > > > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    > > >  
    
    > > > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    > > >  
    
    > > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    > > >  
    
    > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > 
    
    > > >  
    
    > > > _______________________________________________
    
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    > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
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    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
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    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
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    by Frederik Kramer - 04:51 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hello, thank you for bringing this up.

    I am available to collaborate.

    A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.
    There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super reduced.
    And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not the only country.

    I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.
    Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-invoicing?

    Thanks
    Daniel

    On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:
    Hi all,
    I was planning to use this module as a starting point: https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country, but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    What planned implementation would do?
    Sergio Corato


    Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.

    We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.

    Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.

    Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT laws. This one is going to be different.

    Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi Harald, 
    
    yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However even
    after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a couple
    of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per use
    case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority collecting the
    collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems to be
    NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of creating a
    manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of he German
    authorities).
    
    Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to be
    solve european wide. 
    
    BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from member
    state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market place
    special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global fullfilment or
    alike
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:
    
    
    
    > Hi Community,
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of
    
    
    
    > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > More info:
    
    
    
    > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of
    
    
    
    > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European
    
    
    
    > partner working on this?
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were
    
    
    
    > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join
    
    
    
    > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology
    
    
    
    > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Regards,
    
    
    
    > -- 
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Harald Panten López
    
    
    
    > CEO
    
    
    
    > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > +34 637 88 42 41
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > harald.panten@sygel.es
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > https://www.sygel.es
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > _______________________________________________
    
    
    
    > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    
    
    > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    
    
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    -- 
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    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

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    CEO

    Sygel Technology S.L




    +34 637 88 42 41
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    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona



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    by Daniel Reis - 04:41 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi all,
    I was planning to use this module as a starting point: https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service
    So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.
    The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country, but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).
    What planned implementation would do?
    Sergio Corato


    Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:
    Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.

    We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.

    Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.

    Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT laws. This one is going to be different.

    Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi Harald, 
    
    yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However even
    after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a couple
    of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per use
    case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority collecting the
    collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems to be
    NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of creating a
    manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of he German
    authorities).
    
    Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to be
    solve european wide. 
    
    BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from member
    state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market place
    special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global fullfilment or
    alike
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:
    
    
    
    > Hi Community,
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of
    
    
    
    > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > More info:
    
    
    
    > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of
    
    
    
    > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European
    
    
    
    > partner working on this?
    
    
    
    > 
    
    
    
    > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were
    
    
    
    > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join
    
    
    
    > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology
    
    
    
    > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    
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    by Sergio Corato - 02:50 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Transfer/Migrate Product with Variants Keeping External Identifier for product.product
    Hello Aires,

    It is not clear, but I feel that you are doing the export based on Product Template + Attributes, that will later trigger the Variant creation.
    I suggest you to instead export/import the Product Variants (product.product), along with the related attribute data, and let the implicit Product Template record be automatically created.

    For the record I did a quick test (14.0), and:
    - if you import a "MYPRODUCT" Product Template, it has a __import__.MYPRODUCT XMLId and creates a related Product Variant with no XMLId.
    - if you import a "MYPRODUCT" Product Variant,  it has a __import__.MYPRODUCT XMLId and creates a related Product Template with XMLId __import__.MYPRODUCT_product_template.

    This is helpful for that cases where you have relations to Product Template records (BoMs for example).

    I hope this helps.

    Thanks
    Daniel

    On 10/06/2021 08:57, Aires Silvestre wrote:

    Hello everyone

    I need to transfer products with variants from one Odoo database to another and have one requirement:

    To keep the exact external identifier for both product.template and product.product records. 

    I need specially to preserve the external identifier for product.product (Product Variants) because later on I'll have to transfer stock moves and, yes, what is referenced in stock moves, sales, purchases, is product.product (and not product.template).

    I've successfully exported products with variants (exported "attribute_line_ids/attribute_id/id" and "attribute_line_ids/value_ids/id") and import them in the destination database and everything is OK, products with variants are replicated but at the end variants (product.product records) have no external identifier, and I need them.

    Can someone help, please?

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    by Daniel Reis - 01:00 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.

    We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.

    Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.

    Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT laws. This one is going to be different.

    Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi Harald, 
    
    yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However even
    after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a couple
    of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per use
    case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority collecting the
    collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems to be
    NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of creating a
    manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of he German
    authorities).
    
    Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to be
    solve european wide. 
    
    BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from member
    state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market place
    special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global fullfilment or
    alike
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:
    
    
    > Hi Community,
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of
    
    
    > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > More info:
    
    
    > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of
    
    
    > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European
    
    
    > partner working on this?
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were
    
    
    > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join
    
    
    > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology
    
    
    > proposed by OCA.
    
    
    > 
    
    
    > Regards,
    
    
    > -- 
    
    
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    > CEO
    
    
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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 01:00 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    +1
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    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 02:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


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    by Bruno Joliveau - 12:51 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Harald, 
    
    yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However even
    after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a couple
    of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.
    
    For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per use
    case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and
    differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with
    configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority collecting the
    collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems to be
    NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of creating a
    manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of he German
    authorities).
    
    Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to be
    solve european wide. 
    
    BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from member
    state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market place
    special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global fullfilment or
    alike
    
    Best Frederik
    
    Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:
    
    > Hi Community,
    
    > 
    
    > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of
    
    > July) that will affect all EU countries.
    
    > 
    
    > More info:
    
    > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
    
    > 
    
    > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of
    
    > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European
    
    > partner working on this?
    
    > 
    
    > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were
    
    > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join
    
    > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology
    
    > proposed by OCA.
    
    > 
    
    > Regards,
    
    > -- 
    
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    by Frederik Kramer - 12:40 - 10 Jun 2021
  • European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Community,

    As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of July) that will affect all EU countries.

    More info:
    https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en

    For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European partner working on this?

    Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology proposed by OCA.

    Regards,
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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 12:26 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document

    Let me know if you have not received the GitHub invite by tomorrow.

    -sbi

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:12 PM Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> wrote:
    Good, so could somebody actually do it please? :D

    El jue, 10 de jun de 2021 a las 07:47:37 AM, Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> escribió:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 09:11, Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> a écrit :
    +1!

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 8:52, Enric Tobella (<etobella@creublanca.es>) escribió:
    +1 obviously!!

    On 10 Jun 2021 08:42, "Mignon, Laurent" <laurent.mignon@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


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    by Stéphane Bidoul - 12:26 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    Good, so could somebody actually do it please? :D

    El jue, 10 de jun de 2021 a las 07:47:37 AM, Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@camptocamp.com> escribió:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 09:11, Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> a écrit :
    +1!

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 8:52, Enric Tobella (<etobella@creublanca.es>) escribió:
    +1 obviously!!

    On 10 Jun 2021 08:42, "Mignon, Laurent" <laurent.mignon@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


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    by Jairo Llopis - 12:11 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Transfer/Migrate Product with Variants Keeping External Identifier for product.product

    Hi,

    Are you having trouble with generating your own identifiers when you create the products?

    Remember, they are just in a table.

    If you have data in a module, the external identifiers are fixed by the id in the xml.

    When you export anything in Odoo, it will use that identifier, or it will look for what identifier has been used, and if it is not there, will create its own?

    So after importing your products in your new database, you could set / override the external identifier to be what it was in your export?

    Without knowing what you have done, and what the endgame is exactly, I would have thought it a not too difficult task to replace the identifiers in your new db with what they were in the old db, ensuring that future exports from either source would have the same identifier.

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    Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2021 5:57 PM
    To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
    Subject: Transfer/Migrate Product with Variants Keeping External Identifier for product.product
     

    Hello everyone

    I need to transfer products with variants from one Odoo database to another and have one requirement:

    To keep the exact external identifier for both product.template and product.product records. 

    I need specially to preserve the external identifier for product.product (Product Variants) because later on I'll have to transfer stock moves and, yes, what is referenced in stock moves, sales, purchases, is product.product (and not product.template).

    I've successfully exported products with variants (exported "attribute_line_ids/attribute_id/id" and "attribute_line_ids/value_ids/id") and import them in the destination database and everything is OK, products with variants are replicated but at the end variants (product.product records) have no external identifier, and I need them.

    Can someone help, please?

    Regards

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    Aires Silvestre

    COO | Odoo Consultant

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    by "Richard deMeester" <richard.demeester@willdooit.com> - 10:41 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Transfer/Migrate Product with Variants Keeping External Identifier for product.product

    Hello everyone

    I need to transfer products with variants from one Odoo database to another and have one requirement:

    To keep the exact external identifier for both product.template and product.product records. 

    I need specially to preserve the external identifier for product.product (Product Variants) because later on I'll have to transfer stock moves and, yes, what is referenced in stock moves, sales, purchases, is product.product (and not product.template).

    I've successfully exported products with variants (exported "attribute_line_ids/attribute_id/id" and "attribute_line_ids/value_ids/id") and import them in the destination database and everything is OK, products with variants are replicated but at the end variants (product.product records) have no external identifier, and I need them.

    Can someone help, please?

    Regards

    --
    ALIEN GROUP LDA

    Aires Silvestre

    COO | Odoo Consultant

    em.aires.silvestre@alien-group.com

    tm.+244 913 728 650

    Código QR

    Rua Doutor Agostinho Neto, 156, Bairro Azul, Luanda - Angola, Tel: +244 913 728 600 | +244 913 728 650,
    Website: www.alien-group.com, Email: geral@alien-group.com

    Não imprima este email caso não seja estritamente necessário. A Terra agradece-lhe!


    by Aires Silvestre - 09:56 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 09:11, Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> a écrit :
    +1!

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 8:52, Enric Tobella (<etobella@creublanca.es>) escribió:
    +1 obviously!!

    On 10 Jun 2021 08:42, "Mignon, Laurent" <laurent.mignon@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


    Thanks everyone!

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    by Joël Grand Guillaume - 09:46 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    +1!

    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 8:52, Enric Tobella (<etobella@creublanca.es>) escribió:
    +1 obviously!!

    On 10 Jun 2021 08:42, "Mignon, Laurent" <laurent.mignon@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


    Thanks everyone!

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    CEO

    Sygel Technology S.L

    +34 637 88 42 41
    harald.panten@sygel.es
    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona

    by Harald Panten Lopez - 09:11 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    +1 obviously!!

    On 10 Jun 2021 08:42, "Mignon, Laurent" <laurent.mignon@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


    Thanks everyone!

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    a su eliminación.

    by Enric Tobella Alomar - 08:50 - 10 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    +1

    On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
    +1

    Le jeu. 10 juin 2021 à 08:32, Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> a écrit :
    Hello, I'm recently quite active on the dms repo, and I see it could use an extra maintainer. I propose myself.


    Thanks everyone!

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    by Laurent Mignon - 08:41 - 10 Jun 2021