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  • Re: Full text search
    Hi to all,

    we have developed something for full text search, also search like on the Google search with +/- composing domains...we will try to push it under OCA and let you know.


    Best Regards / Cu respect,
    Mihai Fekete

    NextERP Romania S.R.L.
    600B, Peciu Nou, Romania

    E-mail: feketemihai@nexterp.ro
    Telefon: ‪0788-749989‬
    Website: https://nexterp.ro



    On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:36 PM Holze, Jens <jholze@bloopark.de> wrote:
    I would be interested as well. Something like Alfred on Mac :)

    On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:26 AM Lorenzo Battistini <elbaddy@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hello everyone,

    I remember some discussion about implementing full text search for Odoo, but I can't find any module or work in progress.

    Do you have any pointers?

    Thanks!

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    by Mihai Fekete - 11:46 - 15 Jun 2021
  • Re: Full text search
    I would be interested as well. Something like Alfred on Mac :)

    On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:26 AM Lorenzo Battistini <elbaddy@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hello everyone,

    I remember some discussion about implementing full text search for Odoo, but I can't find any module or work in progress.

    Do you have any pointers?

    Thanks!

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    by Jens Holze - 11:35 - 15 Jun 2021
  • Full text search
    Hello everyone,

    I remember some discussion about implementing full text search for Odoo, but I can't find any module or work in progress.

    Do you have any pointers?

    Thanks!

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    by Lorenzo Battistini. - 11:26 - 15 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    El lun, 14 de jun de 2021 a las 16:57:08 PM, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> escribió:
    Hi Jairo, It should be ok now.

    Yes, thank you.
    by Jairo Llopis - 08:36 - 15 Jun 2021
  • Re: Track sales packaging costs
    Hello,

    My requirements on this got more detailed,
    and I ended up created a module to allow including other costs in the margin calculation.

    I explain it in more detail in the module description, here:
    https://github.com/OCA/margin-analysis/pull/97/files#diff-d50d268e9b54e2cef699cc573b93425d9b1def68c6236a52c9c5c613f5f7b3bf

    """
    Track expected shipping costs, allowing more accurate margin calculations.

    Costs could include packaging, documentation or customs expenses.
    These may be consumables or services, not directly included in sales order lines
    nor accounted with the invoice.
    But we may still ant the Sales Order margin to consider these costs,
    especially if business margins are tight.

    Also allows for carrier shipping costs to be estimated separately,
    instead of being automatically added as a sales order line, to charge the customer.

    This is useful in the case the customer is charge with a shipping fee
    that can be very different from the actual shipping cost,
    or when no shipping fee is charged at all.

    In this case the expected shipping costs, computed by the UPDATE SHIPPING COSTS
    button, can be stored as Other Costs and considered for the sales order margin,
    instead being added as a sales order line and charged to the customer.
    """

    I hope this could be of interest for other people.

    Thanks
    Daniel



    On 15/03/2021 09:01, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) wrote:
    This trouble looks like delivery cost of Intrastat.
    On intrastat statement, all delivery costs (required) and packaging costs (optional) have to be shared in COGS.

    Example:

    Sale Order












    Product Qty Unit Price Subtotal Delivery cost Intrastat value Pack.Cost
    Prod.A 10,0 € 10,50 € 105,00 € 6,56 € 111,56 € 3,28
    Prod.B 10,0 € 5,50 € 55,00 € 3,44 € 58,44 € 1,72
    Packaging 1,0 € 5,00 € 5,00


    Delivery 1,0 € 10,00 € 10,00


    TOTAL

    		€ 175,00


    Tot.Goods & Service 20
    		€ 160,00 € 10,00 € 170,00 € 5,00


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    Il 15/03/21 01:56, Marco Marchiori ha scritto:
    Graeme

    as you said I was not so accurate to include the IAS compliance in the discussion.
    In any case we defined the nature of such costs: they are variable costs, they should be included in cogs but they could be allocated, with a sort of ABC, "depending on the sales order composition".
    If they are "extra-amounts" (as Daniel said) they should be allocated in addition to the cost (apparently) already included in the product, but of course I would not discuss IAS compliance here!
    So I suggested to track them separately (we agree on that).
    Then the entry I advised to make was an absorption one, that would work both in continental and anglo-saxon accounting.
    If I worked for a business like that (independently from IAS) I would ask myself if it's more important the cost of the product or the cost of the order...

    Ciao

    Marco

    Il giorno dom 14 mar 2021 alle ore 21:57 Graeme Gellatly <gdgellatly@gmail.com> ha scritto:
    Hi,

    Under IAS2 this advice is not correct. It is very clear that product costs relate to bringing the product to its present location and condition. It cannot include non incurred costs, or costs that form part of the sales process. Now if it forms part of a manufacturing process, then they can be included under costs of conversion, but only if they are part of that conversion. If there is no production process then no costs. If there is then actually the manufacturing process handles it all already because it occurs prior to the sales transaction.

    Here is the exact clause.
    The cost of inventories shall comprise all costs of purchase, costs of conversion and other costs incurred in bringing the inventories to their present location and condition.

    So in this case where the packaging costs are part of the sales process they do not form cost of inventories. Indeed any costs incurred in the selling process are explicitly excluded.

    However it should of course be included in Cost of Goods sold, but it is no different to any other cost / revenue required at time of sale (or purchase for that matter), such as rebates, discounts on either the vendor/customer side related to a particular customer. It is a very common use case, and its the same reason you need to accrue warranty liability accrual at time of sale rather than in inventories (or time of claim for that matter). The only tricky part being the management of the sales transaction because you need some way to record that (y), which is variable in this case, but effectively you end up with.

    CR Inventory - Product A x
    CR Packaging y
    DR COGS - Product A (x+y).

    Is how I'd do it, probably just adding the packaging to the picking (not the sale) and then overriding the anglosaxon entries to allocate costs.

    That is the simple case, Obviously there is a mix of products involved, all utilising the packaging, so a reasonable allocation decision needs to be made, probably a dollar weighted basis, but possibly volume. Under anglo saxon the way Odoo operates it will be a significant amount of work, as you then need to reconcile both sides of the accrual accounts, but really it is no different to the same issue you have with A/P accrual accounts and having to allow for expected rebates.

    On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:32 AM Marco Marchiori <info@marcomarchiori.com> wrote:

    In general (accountant's view)
    1- A standard, or minimum or what-you-want package cost should be included in product cost, and "absorbed" when you FG is produced
    2- The actual cost should be recorded when incurred (order > invoice)
    3- The extra-package cost would be the "algebraic sum" of cost incurred and absorbed
    4- The total package cost would be the sum of extra and COGS-included package cost or (sould be the same) the total cost incurred referred to the product sold

    Ciao

    Marco 

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    by Daniel Reis - 12:16 - 15 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop 
    Hi all, 

what you all makes absolute sense. In Germany we have the probably
slightly different case that most SME still use Datev for their
financial accounting, so looking at that specific thing its desireable
to follow Datev' habit on creating accounts for specific accounting
practices. Having said this meanwhile i checked the "German" Datev
habit with regard to intra-trade and found out, that most probably we
accumulate all but the domestic trades on 1! revenue account and 1! tax
account. I'll wait final approval by the tax advisors but if that holds
true, than yes certainly no reason to rework the design for more
flexibility / complexity here.

Best Frederik 

Am Montag, den 14.06.2021, 20:26 +0000 schrieb Valentin Vinagre
Urteaga:

> Hi Daniel,

> As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much

> more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to

> implement and more versatile.

> 

> El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<

> valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:

> > Hi Frederik,

> > At first we also thought about being able to define which account

> > to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take

> > it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and

> > then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be

> > carried out with this functionality.

> > 

> > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<

> > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:

> > > The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I

> > > discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the

> > > `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed

> > > things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and

> > > restricting.

> > > 

> > > Regards.

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    by Frederik Kramer - 11:41 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Daniel,
    As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to implement and more versatile.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:
    Hi Frederik,
    At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.

    Regards.

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    by Valentín Vinagre - 10:26 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Frederik,
    At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.

    Regards.

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    by Valentín Vinagre - 10:20 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.

    Regards.
    by Pedro M. Baeza - 09:55 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop 
    Frederik, I had a second round looking at the implementation, and I now 
feel that it is best for the dynamically created Account.Tax records to 
not have XML Ids.

This will work best to avoid creating  duplicate Tax Rates.
If you make sure to update the new "Country" field on Account.Tax, the 
tax creation wizard should be able to keep them.

For localization modules proposing mapping to the Chart of Accounts, 
there are strategies to deal with this.
You can use init scripts, use XML files with <function> elements, or 
even create and run a Server Action.

So, personally I'm good with the current design.


Thanks
Daniel
    by Daniel Reis - 09:51 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    I don't think the base OSS engine should do that. The thing is about taxes, not accounts, and as you can see in the rest of Odoo, you don't need to differentiate accounts for getting the different tax fees and bases. It's more the habit of accountants of splitting things into different accounts than the real need.

    Regards.
    by Pedro M. Baeza - 09:35 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    Hi Jairo, It should be ok now.

    -sbi

    On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:32 AM Jairo Llopis <jairo.llopis@tecnativa.com> wrote:
    El jue, 10 de jun de 2021 a las 10:27:40 AM, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> escribió:
    Let me know if you have not received the GitHub invite by tomorrow.

    I still don't have it.

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    by Stéphane Bidoul - 06:56 - 14 Jun 2021
  • [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop 
    Hi Harald, hi all, 

Daniel, Usama and me had as discussion. We were already dicussing these
pull request and agreed that we share hands on reviewing on porting
these ideas to v14 (Daniel) and v12 (Usama) but we also agreed to 
be a bit more patient with regards to these work evolving during the
next week by their original author (i think its you an Valentin, right
?). 

Apart from that we've identified the potential need to be able to map
taxes to accounting accounts (i.e. local chart of accounts) as the
revenue and taxes generated from member state sales should most
probably be assigned to different accounts (for tax and sales
reports). 

We agreed that this should be handeled in the respective localisation.

In the aftermath of todays meeting i checked this for the German
accounting and it seems that German tax adivisors assign all member
state sales and taxes to a different (even though cumulative) account.

See (
https://www.haufe.de/finance/haufe-finance-office-premium/umsatzsteuer-versandhandel-in-der-eu-bis-3062021_idesk_PI20354_HI6758651.html
) 

I gonna cross check this and we will do an example mapping than in the
German localisation if that holds true. If this holds true (which we
are quite sure about in general) we think it might be also a good idea
to have a wizard creating the (inactivated tax codes) so that a
localisation can activate and create fiscal rules from it and don't
 create fiscal rules righ away (i am not sure if what i am writing hits
the nail but certainly Daniel may add some clarity on the approach
here).

All in all we suggest to have a next meeting in a week from now at 3pm
CEST, again in discord for all that are intrested in the matter.

Cheers Frederik


Am Montag, den 14.06.2021, 13:17 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:

> Hi Community,

> 

> You can check the 3 modules that our team has been working in.

> They're still WIP but we'll keep working on them.

> 

> https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule/pull/207

> https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule/pull/206

> https://github.com/OCA/e-commerce/pull/552

> 

> Regards.

> 

> El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 14:42, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) (<

> antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com>) escribió:

> > Where we can find the Discord channel, please?

> > 

> > Antonio M. Vigliotti

> > 

> > Mobile (+39) 342.8740910

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > Il 11/06/21 12:22, Daniel Reis ha scritto:

> > > Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.

> > > Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can

> > > join too.

> > > Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you

> > > prefer.

> > > 

> > > Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.

> > > An initial discussion call would still be useful.

> > > 

> > > Thanks

> > > Daniel

> > > 

> > > On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:

> > > > If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting

> > > > channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the

> > > > conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other

> > > > contributors.

> > > > 

> > > > WDYT?

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > 

> > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<

> > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:

> > > > > Hi folks, 

> > > > > 

> > > > > from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on

> > > > > the matter.

> > > > > Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to

> > > > > nail down the

> > > > > scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would

> > > > > suggest

> > > > > Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We

> > > > > could set

> > > > > up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?

> > > > > 

> > > > > Best Frederik 

> > > > > 

> > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel

> > > > > Reis:

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > Hello, thank you for bringing this up.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > I am available to collaborate.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax

> > > > > regions.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and

> > > > > super

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > reduced.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland,

> > > > > Madeira

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure

> > > > > it is not

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > the only country.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing

> > > > > accounting

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot

> > > > > oca/account-

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > invoicing?

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > Daniel

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT

> > > > > by

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by

> > > > > the advisor.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by

> > > > > country,

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > What planned implementation would do?

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > Sergio Corato

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten

> > > > > Lopez <

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > 

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> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.

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> > > > > > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C...

> > > > > As you

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> > > > > > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU

> > > > > countries.

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> > > > > > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the

> > > > > Spanish VAT

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> > > > > > > > laws. This one is going to be different.

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> > > > > > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our

> > > > > idea was to

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> > > > > > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.

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> > > > > > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<

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> > > > > > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > Hi Harald, 

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> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > 

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well.

> > > > > However

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany

> > > > > there are a

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > couple

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax

> > > > > adivsory.

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> > > > > > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything

> > > > > concerning the per

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> > > > > > > > > use

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> > > > > > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection

> > > > > base) and

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> > > > > > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be

> > > > > done with

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> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS

> > > > > authority

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > collecting the

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and

> > > > > there seems

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> > > > > > > > > to be

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> > > > > > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing

> > > > > of

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> > > > > > > > > creating a

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> > > > > > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER

> > > > > portal (of

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> > > > > > > > > he German

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> > > > > > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues

> > > > > that need to

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> > > > > > > > > be

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> > > > > > > > > solve european wide. 

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with

> > > > > delivery from

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > member

> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without

> > > > > IOSS market

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > place

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> > > > > > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon

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> > > > > > > > > fullfilment or

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> > > > > > > > > Best Frederik

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb

> > > > > Harald

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> > > > > 

> > > > > > > > > Panten Lopez:

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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Community,

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> > > > > > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented

> > > > > shortly

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> > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en

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> > > > > > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is

> > > > > planning a "kind

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > of

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> > > > > > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is

> > > > > any

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> > > > > > > > > European

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> > > > > > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project,

> > > > > and we

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> > > > > > > > > were

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> > > > > > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The

> > > > > main idea is

> > > > > 

> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > to "join

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> > > > > > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according

> > > > > to the

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> > > > > 

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> > > > > > > > > ideology

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> > > > > > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer

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    by Frederik Kramer - 06:16 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: Migration to Odoo 14: replacing size attribute of Char field
    Thanks all for your suggestions :)
    I chose to move the constraint to UI; unfortunately the Char widget did not allow to set the size option so I implemented https://github.com/OCA/web/pull/1952 that allows it.

    On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 15:01, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> wrote:
    The warning is from Odoo, not from linters, so #noqa is not valid.

    El vie., 21 may. 2021 14:52, Graeme Gellatly <gdgellatly@gmail.com> escribió:
    I think if the use case is valid and no convenient good alternative exists then the easiest solution is

    # noqa 

    with a note.

    On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:16 AM Dominique k <dominique.k@elico-corp.com.sg> wrote:
    how about api.onchange ?
    it would work on form modification.



    On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 6:57 PM, Simone Rubino <simone.rubino@agilebg.com> wrote:
    Hi all,
    I am migrating some modules to version 14 following https://github.com/OCA/maintainer-tools/wiki/Migration-to-version-14.0 but there is:
    Remove size=X attribute in Char fields, as it's no longer valid for restricting the size of the strings.
    that I don't know how to satisfy.

    The attribute size=X still works fine in Odoo 14 with also the UI limitation so I believe this comes from https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/1c39814bd729cc08882f1545c7d88b0592e63f9a/odoo/fields.py#L1608 but as far I can see, it has always been deprecated (at least from https://github.com/odoo/odoo/commit/524bb0a52027ec81245750bb5f0a9e5320faf922), so is there any reason for this to be explicitly mentioned in Odoo 14 migration?

    I know I could add an `api.constrains` but this looks to me like overkill since I believe constraints should be used for more complex conditions.
    Moreover: `api.constrains` does not add any limitation in the UI, so it is not as user-friendly as the attribute size=X that does not allow the user to input more than X characters.
    I should then add also something in every view showing the Char field (hopefully just an option for the Char widget), but it still seems too much work for such an easy requirement.

    This said, what is a valid alternative to the size=X attribute?


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  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Community,

    You can check the 3 modules that our team has been working in. They're still WIP but we'll keep working on them.


    Regards.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 14:42, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) (<antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com>) escribió:
    Where we can find the Discord channel, please?

    Antonio M. Vigliotti

    Mobile (+39) 342.8740910



    Il 11/06/21 12:22, Daniel Reis ha scritto:
    Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
    Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
    Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.

    Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
    An initial discussion call would still be useful.

    Thanks
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    On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
    If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

    WDYT?



    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi folks, 

from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?

Best Frederik 

Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:



> Hello, thank you for bringing this up.



> 



> I am available to collaborate.



> 



> A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.



> There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super



> reduced.



> And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira



> and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not



> the only country.



> 



> I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.



> Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting



> relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-



> invoicing?



> 



> Thanks



> Daniel



> 



> On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:



> > Hi all,



> > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 



> > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service



> > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by



> > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.



> > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,



> > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).



> > What planned implementation would do?



> > Sergio Corato



> > 



> > 



> > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <



> > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:



> > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.



> > > 



> > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.



> > > 



> > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you



> > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.



> > > 



> > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT



> > > laws. This one is going to be different.



> > > 



> > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to



> > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.



> > > 



> > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<



> > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:



> > > > Hi Harald, 



> > > > 



> > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However



> > > > even



> > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a



> > > > couple



> > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.



> > > > 



> > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per



> > > > use



> > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and



> > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with



> > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority



> > > > collecting the



> > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems



> > > > to be



> > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of



> > > > creating a



> > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of



> > > > he German



> > > > authorities).



> > > > 



> > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to



> > > > be



> > > > solve european wide. 



> > > > 



> > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from



> > > > member



> > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market



> > > > place



> > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global



> > > > fullfilment or



> > > > alike



> > > > 



> > > > Best Frederik



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> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald



> > > > Panten Lopez:



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > Hi Community,



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly



> > > > (1st of



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > More info:



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind



> > > > of



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any



> > > > European



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > partner working on this?



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we



> > > > were



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is



> > > > to "join



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the



> > > > ideology



> > > > 



> > > > 



> > > > 



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> > > > 



> > > > 



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> > > > > 



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> > > > 



> > > > > Regards,



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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 03:16 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Where we can find the Discord channel, please?

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    Il 11/06/21 12:22, Daniel Reis ha scritto:
    Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
    Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
    Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.

    Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
    An initial discussion call would still be useful.

    Thanks
    Daniel

    On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
    If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.

    WDYT?



    El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
    Hi folks, 

from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter.
Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the
scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest
Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set
up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ?

Best Frederik 

Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis:


> Hello, thank you for bringing this up.


> 


> I am available to collaborate.


> 


> A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions.


> There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super


> reduced.


> And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira


> and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not


> the only country.


> 


> I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository.


> Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting


> relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account-


> invoicing?


> 


> Thanks


> Daniel


> 


> On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote:


> > Hi all,


> > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: 


> > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service


> > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by


> > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor.


> > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country,


> > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here).


> > What planned implementation would do?


> > Sergio Corato


> > 


> > 


> > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez <


> > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:


> > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply.


> > > 


> > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps.


> > > 


> > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you


> > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries.


> > > 


> > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT


> > > laws. This one is going to be different.


> > > 


> > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to


> > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository.


> > > 


> > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (<


> > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:


> > > > Hi Harald, 


> > > > 


> > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However


> > > > even


> > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a


> > > > couple


> > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory.


> > > > 


> > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per


> > > > use


> > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and


> > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with


> > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority


> > > > collecting the


> > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems


> > > > to be


> > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of


> > > > creating a


> > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of


> > > > he German


> > > > authorities).


> > > > 


> > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to


> > > > be


> > > > solve european wide. 


> > > > 


> > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from


> > > > member


> > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market


> > > > place


> > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global


> > > > fullfilment or


> > > > alike


> > > > 


> > > > Best Frederik


> > > > 


> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald


> > > > Panten Lopez:


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Hi Community,


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly


> > > > (1st of


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries.


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > More info:


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind


> > > > of


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any


> > > > European


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > partner working on this?


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we


> > > > were


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is


> > > > to "join


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the


> > > > ideology


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > proposed by OCA.


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Regards,


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > -- 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Harald Panten López


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > CEO


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > Sygel Technology S.L


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > +34 637 88 42 41


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > https://www.sygel.es


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > 


> > > > > _______________________________________________


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> > > > -- 


> > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer


> > > > Geschäftsführer


> > > >         


> > > > initOS GmbH


> > > > An der Eisenbahn 1


> > > > 21224 Rosengarten


> > > >         


> > > > Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12


> > > > Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10


> > > > Mobil:  +49 179 3901819


> > > >         


> > > > Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com


> > > > Web:   www.initos.com


> > > >         


> > > > Geschäftsführung:


> > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke


> > > > 


> > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken


> > > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226


> > > > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247


> > > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155


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> > > 


> > > -- 


> > > 


> > > 


> > > Harald Panten López


> > > CEO


> > > Sygel Technology S.L


> > > 


> > > 


> > > 


> > >  


> > > +34 637 88 42 41


> > >  


> > > harald.panten@sygel.es


> > >  


> > > https://www.sygel.es


> > >  


> > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona


> > > 


> > > 


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    by Antonio M. Vigliotti - 02:40 - 14 Jun 2021

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  • Re: Proposing myself as PSC for Document
    El jue, 10 de jun de 2021 a las 10:27:40 AM, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> escribió:
    Let me know if you have not received the GitHub invite by tomorrow.

    I still don't have it.
    by Jairo Llopis - 08:31 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop 
    Sure, lets go for discord Monday 2pm and my Nick is OSevangelist there
I'll try to take my colleague Usama with me

Best, have a nice weekend and cu on Monday 2pm CEST

Am Freitag, den 11.06.2021, 11:27 +0000 schrieb Harald Panten Lopez:

> Perfect!

> 

> Let's meet in the accounting channel by OCA Discord.

> 

> I found you (Daniel) and Sergio as well. Frederik, do you have access

> to OCA Discord?

> 

> El vie, 11 jun 2021 a las 13:11, Daniel Reis (<

> dreis@opensourceintegrators.com>) escribió:

> > > Daniel, maybe we could have this discussion call by Discord, as

> > > well?

> >  

> > Of course, I completely forgot Discord does that too.

> > 

> > Thanks

> > 

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Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
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Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
        
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    by Frederik Kramer - 01:51 - 11 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Perfect!

    Let's meet in the accounting channel by OCA Discord.

    I found you (Daniel) and Sergio as well. Frederik, do you have access to OCA Discord?

    El vie, 11 jun 2021 a las 13:11, Daniel Reis (<dreis@opensourceintegrators.com>) escribió:

    Daniel, maybe we could have this discussion call by Discord, as well?

    Of course, I completely forgot Discord does that too.

    Thanks

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    by Harald Panten Lopez - 01:26 - 11 Jun 2021
  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop

    Daniel, maybe we could have this discussion call by Discord, as well?

    Of course, I completely forgot Discord does that too.

    Thanks

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    by Daniel Reis - 01:11 - 11 Jun 2021