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Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
hi,on dockerhub, odoo provides a docker-compose file that install everything, and is very quick to deploy, including a postgres database.Regards,DominiqueOn Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 07:12, Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:> I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15
I learned docker last year over a period of about six months, so I'm not an expert - however I do have a fair degree of experience with Linux sysadmin spanning a decade or more, so I'm not a novice either. For work related reasons I ended up testing something like twenty different dockerized apps over this period, and Odoo was one of the later ones, so I was getting familiar by that time.
Overall, I love the experience of dealing with containerized apps, compared to the old school style of installing them directly. However, there were two apps that stood out as being as struggle to install. One was Outline wiki (a great app once installed, however). The other was Odoo, both community and enterprise, but especially enterprise.
The reason for it being complicated is to do with database setup. I haven't found any way to have a docker install creates no database, so you can open the page and create/restore a database as described in the docs for a new installation.
Instead, what I get with every initial container, both writing my own compose scripts and following templates that I can find online, is loads of server errors (I forget exactly what errors now, but it was something to do with "database incorrectly initialized"). The only way around this that I have found is to add a command:
# Don't leave this line in for production!!
# command: --db_host=${DB_HOST} --database ${DB_NAME} --db_user ${POSTGRES_USER} --db_password ${POSTGRES_PASSWORD} -i base
Then on the first install I uncomment that, it creates a blank database and that allows me to access web/database/manage where I can finally restore the real database. Then I have to remember to uncomment the line and re-up the container (otherwise it will overwrite the database every time).
As for enterprise, the only description in the docs for how to install is this:
> Tip: For the Enterprise edition, you must add the path to the enterprise addons to the addons-path argument. Note that it must come before the other paths in addons-path for addons to be loaded correctly.
https://www.odoo.com/documentation/16.0/administration/install/install.html
When you download the enterprise files, you'll see that they have a folder structure similar to the entire Odoo install, including an addons folder. So, as per the tip, I added that enterprise/addons folder to the addons-path.
This is incorrect. Instead, you need to add the *entire* enterprise folder structure as an addons folder, which means there's an addons folder with another addons folder inside it.
I think it's fair to call this confusing and poorly documented, although it's far from the worst thing I've encountered in my dev career, or even in the Odoo docs.
- Lewy
P.S: If anyone can share a docker-compose template for community edition that does allow me to immediately access web/database/manage, I would appreciate it :)
On 08-Feb-23 21:32, Adam Heinz wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:57 PM Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
In terms of usage, installing the Enterprise version from source using Docker is complicated and poorly documented.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15 and seem to recall it being no more than adding an /mnt/enterprise-addons volume on top of the standard odoo:12-15 docker container. We do the exact same type of mounting for our own custom development and also for OCA modules. We ultimately decided not to go with it due to cost and legal arbitration being in Europe, but I still press my face up against the glass and stare longingly at the Spreadsheets module. ;-)_______________________________________________
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by dominique.k - 02:16 - 13 Feb 2023 -
Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
> I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15
I learned docker last year over a period of about six months, so I'm not an expert - however I do have a fair degree of experience with Linux sysadmin spanning a decade or more, so I'm not a novice either. For work related reasons I ended up testing something like twenty different dockerized apps over this period, and Odoo was one of the later ones, so I was getting familiar by that time.
Overall, I love the experience of dealing with containerized apps, compared to the old school style of installing them directly. However, there were two apps that stood out as being as struggle to install. One was Outline wiki (a great app once installed, however). The other was Odoo, both community and enterprise, but especially enterprise.
The reason for it being complicated is to do with database setup. I haven't found any way to have a docker install creates no database, so you can open the page and create/restore a database as described in the docs for a new installation.
Instead, what I get with every initial container, both writing my own compose scripts and following templates that I can find online, is loads of server errors (I forget exactly what errors now, but it was something to do with "database incorrectly initialized"). The only way around this that I have found is to add a command:
# Don't leave this line in for production!!
# command: --db_host=${DB_HOST} --database ${DB_NAME} --db_user ${POSTGRES_USER} --db_password ${POSTGRES_PASSWORD} -i base
Then on the first install I uncomment that, it creates a blank database and that allows me to access web/database/manage where I can finally restore the real database. Then I have to remember to uncomment the line and re-up the container (otherwise it will overwrite the database every time).
As for enterprise, the only description in the docs for how to install is this:
> Tip: For the Enterprise edition, you must add the path to the enterprise addons to the addons-path argument. Note that it must come before the other paths in addons-path for addons to be loaded correctly.
https://www.odoo.com/documentation/16.0/administration/install/install.html
When you download the enterprise files, you'll see that they have a folder structure similar to the entire Odoo install, including an addons folder. So, as per the tip, I added that enterprise/addons folder to the addons-path.
This is incorrect. Instead, you need to add the *entire* enterprise folder structure as an addons folder, which means there's an addons folder with another addons folder inside it.
I think it's fair to call this confusing and poorly documented, although it's far from the worst thing I've encountered in my dev career, or even in the Odoo docs.
- Lewy
P.S: If anyone can share a docker-compose template for community edition that does allow me to immediately access web/database/manage, I would appreciate it :)
On 08-Feb-23 21:32, Adam Heinz wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:57 PM Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
In terms of usage, installing the Enterprise version from source using Docker is complicated and poorly documented.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15 and seem to recall it being no more than adding an /mnt/enterprise-addons volume on top of the standard odoo:12-15 docker container. We do the exact same type of mounting for our own custom development and also for OCA modules. We ultimately decided not to go with it due to cost and legal arbitration being in Europe, but I still press my face up against the glass and stare longingly at the Spreadsheets module. ;-)_______________________________________________
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by dev - 12:10 - 13 Feb 2023 -
Re: As Odoo family, please donate for the disasters in Türkiye
To People in Bern:we are organizing the following.
Robert
On 10.02.23 18:07, İsmail Eski wrote:
Dear Fabien,
Turkey has recently been struck by a devastating earthquake with a magnitude of 7.8. The impact has been widespread and many communities have been severely affected. In this difficult time, we are reaching out to ask for your support. Any donation, no matter how small, will help us provide much-needed aid to those affected by the earthquake. Your generosity will help provide shelter, food, and medical supplies to those in need. If you would like to make a donation, at the buttom we shared IBAN information for contribution. Your contribution will make a real difference in the lives of those affected by this disaster.
Thank you for your kindness and support.
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by Robert Rottermann - 11:20 - 10 Feb 2023 -
Re: As Odoo family, please donate for the disasters in Türkiye
Ismail,The whole odoo community prayers are with The Turkey citizens in the hour of grief.Your steps are much appreciated and we are sure every country is helping Turkey by maximum means like India supplying medical facilities, UAE supplies basic needs.This email won’t reach to Fabien, you may choose an either way by twitter or FB.Each OCA member will contribute by the means of prayers and/or support donation with best possible way.Wish our Turkey friends are safe.Kind regards.Thanks.--On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 10:37 PM, İsmail Eski <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:Dear Fabien,Turkey has recently been struck by a devastating earthquake with a magnitude of 7.8. The impact has been widespread and many communities have been severely affected. In this difficult time, we are reaching out to ask for your support. Any donation, no matter how small, will help us provide much-needed aid to those affected by the earthquake. Your generosity will help provide shelter, food, and medical supplies to those in need. If you would like to make a donation, at the buttom we shared IBAN information for contribution. Your contribution will make a real difference in the lives of those affected by this disaster.Thank you for your kindness and support.İsmail ESKİ
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by Jay Vora - 07:21 - 10 Feb 2023 -
As Odoo family, please donate for the disasters in Türkiye
Dear Fabien,Turkey has recently been struck by a devastating earthquake with a magnitude of 7.8. The impact has been widespread and many communities have been severely affected. In this difficult time, we are reaching out to ask for your support. Any donation, no matter how small, will help us provide much-needed aid to those affected by the earthquake. Your generosity will help provide shelter, food, and medical supplies to those in need. If you would like to make a donation, at the buttom we shared IBAN information for contribution. Your contribution will make a real difference in the lives of those affected by this disaster.Thank you for your kindness and support.İsmail ESKİ
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by "İsmail Eski" <ismaile@projetgrup.com> - 06:06 - 10 Feb 2023 -
OCA Contract Repository
Hello, I’m writing to know your opinion about the contract repository. I started to use the modules in the repository and noted that the module versions of contract module differ a lot between odoo versions.
I have to do some implementations regarding that modules so I’m going to start making PRs to that repo and try to improve the modules starting in version 14.0 and then port it to the others.I want to have your opinions on things you can tell me about what is missing in the modules and so I can organize my roadmap. Also, I don’t know if there are currently active PSC of the module, if not or you want me to join the team I will be interested, because I need to improve the modules and if that can help the development of the repo, count with me.From what I saw, I see the following issues to solve, please if you know another issues or want to make an opinion of changes you would like to see in the module please comment me here:- Contract objects don’t have states. It appears to me that in some versions states existed but is a functionality that was dropped and some point. I strongly think that a module like this must have states.- I think the name of the contract should be computed, or at least use a sequence. I don’t see the point of the name to be manually edited. Having a computed one will help with search and filtering.- There is not grouping entity of contract objects. Meaning we don't have an easy way to group contracts by category or an hicherarchical structure. I think this is useful for usability and to set default parameters.- There is not link between contracts and agreement modules. My common sense dict that a contract should be created from an agreement, meaning that an agreement is a legal contract and when approved and signed, it creates a contract record which defines invoicing schedule. If not, i really don't see any use for agreements if they are not linked. Maybe this can be solved with a new module.- Contract views are awful and need to be improved to favor user usability and comprehension of the module mechanics and uses. This is one of the first changes i want to introduce.- Contract reports and portal views need to be improved. Currently the contract report is not so much developed. Also could be a good idea to allow to see agreements from portal contracts.- I think all codebase should be refactored and maybe split the contract module to have one base_contract with basic functionality for simple cases and then other modules to plug-in more functionality.If you have more opinions and things you want to see in a roadmap, please tell me here and i can maybe add it to my next PRs. Also if you have opinions of how the module should work will be great for when we refactor it.Regards and i want for your thoughts.
by Nicolas Rodriguez Sande - 05:55 - 10 Feb 2023 -
Re: Pricelist sale price on form
Right now there's no such feature, sorry.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 08:51 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: Pricelist sale price on form
Thank you very much ! Last question, in pricelist based on formula for example do we have a way to compute the discount price percentage by setting up the sales price ? I did not find anything but I might have missed it eheh.Thanks for your help. Regards,Francesco BalleriniIl giorno mer 8 feb 2023 alle ore 12:52 Pedro M. Baeza <notifications@odoo-community.org> ha scritto:For similar goals, you can check https://odoo-community.org/shop/product-pricelist-simulation-10719#attr=20152 with ongoing migrations to 14 and 15.Regards._______________________________________________
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by Francesco Ballerini - 08:45 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:57 PM Dev <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:In terms of usage, installing the Enterprise version from source using Docker is complicated and poorly documented.
I'm a little surprised by this statement. I prototyped Enterprise a few times between v12 and v15 and seem to recall it being no more than adding an /mnt/enterprise-addons volume on top of the standard odoo:12-15 docker container. We do the exact same type of mounting for our own custom development and also for OCA modules. We ultimately decided not to go with it due to cost and legal arbitration being in Europe, but I still press my face up against the glass and stare longingly at the Spreadsheets module. ;-)
by Adam Heinz - 03:31 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: module to publish on social networks
If there are several integrators with the same interest, fund together the initial development is something affordable.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 02:41 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: module to publish on social networks
We looked for this kind of modules around Odoo Community, without success.We have broadened the open source search in general. It's poor.
If any of you know of an open source solution that can be installed on premise, ideas are welcome.Have a nice day !
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Le mer. 8 févr. 2023 à 03:36, Pierre Verkest <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :Hi there,Do you know any OpenSource module effort on social areas that allows to schedule post on facebook/linkedin/... linked somehow with marketing campaigns?I would be pleased to help. If needs I could migrate such a module to version 14.0.Regards,--_______________________________________________
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by Bruno Joliveau - 02:35 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: Pricelist sale price on form
For similar goals, you can check https://odoo-community.org/shop/product-pricelist-simulation-10719#attr=20152 with ongoing migrations to 14 and 15.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 12:50 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Pricelist sale price on form
Hello,I would like to be able to show sales price in pricelist items form.Very similar task to this module (only available for odoo13 at the moment) https://odoo-community.org/shop/product-list-pricelist-price-6617#attr=12054, but this one does the job in the product template tree-view.We would need the same one in the product pricelist item form.I need it for odoo14 but I can consider modules for other version is there is one available but not available for 14 (could try to perform a migration in some cases).Thank you in advance. Regards,Francesco Ballerini
by Francesco Ballerini - 10:20 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: module to publish on social networks
I don't know any inside OCA scope, sorry, so I think the effort would be from scratch.Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 09:41 - 8 Feb 2023 -
module to publish on social networks
Hi there,Do you know any OpenSource module effort on social areas that allows to schedule post on facebook/linkedin/... linked somehow with marketing campaigns?I would be pleased to help. If needs I could migrate such a module to version 14.0.Regards,--
by Pierre Verkest - 09:36 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: Odoo -- Community v Enterprise Questions
Hi all, I'm new to this list, but I've been self-hosting Odoo for about a year now (first Community V15 and recently Enterprise V16).
As some have noted, Odoo have changed their fees and made things cheaper for V16. It used to be that you had to pay for each app in a very confusing manner.
I checked it about a year ago and noped back out. I'm not into confusing pricing structures or closed source apps.
However, for V16 they have simplified the payment structure. It's now around $160 per year for each enterprise user, and that gives you access to all apps.
It's now "source available": Once you buy a subscription, you can enter the code on this page to download the Enterprise source code as a zip file:
https://www.odoo.com/page/download
Not quite open source, but you don't need to be an Odoo partner. I don't know if that's a recent change.
For my use case, I only need one user - I'm essentially using it as a fancy POS app, and staff can use that as Portal users, so they don't need paid accounts. I planned to use it for accounting, but now I just export to excel once a month and send those to our accountant (more on that below).
In terms of usage, installing the Enterprise version from source using Docker is complicated and poorly documented. But doable and in my opinion if you only need a couple of users it's worth the money compared to trying to get feature parity using the OCA modules. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, the OCA repos are a lot to take in, and there's scarcely any READMEs or docs telling you what the modules do. I made a huge mess out of trying to add OCA modules to V15 Community and (aside from the complicated install), having all the features automatically available through Enterprise is worth a few hundred dollars a year.
That's the positive side.
On the negative side, I have not had a good experience with Odoo support. I cannot post anything on the official forum because they have crazy karma requirements to even comment. I have no idea how to get karma, and wasted an entire afternoon trying to figure it out. So I can't get any help that way. Given that there are years worth of threads of people with the same complaint, and hardly any activity on the forum, it kinda feels like they don't want people to use it. I've never come across a forum this locked down before, especially not for an app that I pay for. I've moderated forums before and there is no way they need to do this for spam control, that excuse makes no sense.
Next, I tried emailing support. I asked them about how to add more users to the subscription. It took about two weeks to get a reply, and they just said once I add more users, Odoo will update my subscription automatically.
(so BTW, yes, Odoo Enterprise does phone home. I found the chron job, it's about once a week and logs the number of users and their type (internal, portal, and whether they logged in recently). I don't think it logs any other data. I'm not happy about any kind of data logging from my business, and again, they are not upfront about it. But it's also not data I mind being logged, so I decided to be ok with it).
I replied and asked, "What if I add ten new users on the last month of my yearly subscription, would you charge me a full year for all ten users?".
They never responded and closed the ticket - and sent me a survey asking if I was happy with the experience. So I guess the answer to my question was a "yes" but they didn't want to say it. Which I'm also not happy about. Payment terms should always be clear. When I feel that a business is trying to hide their payment terms it always gives me a bad feeling about them (maybe I'm being unfair here though, I guess the ticket could have been closed in error).
Besides that, one of the main reasons I forked out for Enterprise was that the docs clearly state the Enterprise Accounting module supports fiscal localization for my country (Vietnam). It does not.
There is a "Fiscal Localization" package for Vietnam. However, it's not complete and doesn't add much that's useful, from what I can see. In fact, it confused the hell out of both me and my accountant, and we lost probably two weeks of work trying to figure this out (trying to work it out, then trying to contact Odoo support and Odoo Vietnam partners etc.).
Odoo support confirmed that it's a work in progress because, quote: "The Vietnamese accounting system is complicated".
So unless your country uses IFRS, I wouldn't expect to be able to use Odoo Enterprise Accounting.
To sum up: my review is mixed. The Enterprise package is worth it, but only if you only need one or two users. And Odoo support are not gonna help you with anything, they'll just take your money and run. Maybe I would have a different experience if I had a hundred users.
Final note: there will be bugs. Both Enterprise and Community editions. Don't use Odoo unless you're willing to be the IT person for your company, or have such a person. If you don't want to take that on, work with an Odoo partner or use the hosted version.
Have a great day everyone,
Lewy
On 31-Jan-23 11:22, Charles Gucker wrote:
Let me respond inline. On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 8:59 PM Landis Arnold <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote: > Hi, > You can run Enterprise or Community. If you like to "roll your own" then go with Community. You can run as many databases and business you like. Understood, thank you for the response. I will need to figure out the intricacies associated with "running as many databases and business[es] as [I would] like". But with Enterprise, I can't do the above without the additional fees associated with the user/licenses, but I am curious about specific databases making use of the enterprise modules/apps versus others only making use of the community edition. Again, it will take some tinking to figure out those thresholds. > RE enterprise, they have updated some subscription rates so you might find it more affordable. I believe you will pay per "database and user" for Enterprise. If you run One Database and have a small number of users and can afford the $40 or so per month license, then running Enterprise will allow you to install what you want rather than figuring out how to do what you want without the Enterprise package. I'm not worried about the $40 or so per month license, as long as the modules/apps provide $40 worth of value to me. I'm just not yet sure of the value, again tinkering. > Generally there are many/many Community additions to odoo. The additions work on Community or Enterprise levels. You can also purchase additions "apps" (Ie modules with Costs) and run them on Community or Enterprise. https://apps.odoo.com should be the link. Yes, I am aware. It is a bit overwhelming when looking at all of them for the first time. I hope to be able to contribute back to the community as I am in the benefiting stage of the interactions. Give me a bit of time and I'll be happy to return the gesture. > If you want to just use "OCA" apps, then you can look at: > https://odoo-community.org/shop?&search=project status > though best, I feel is to look at Github: > https://https://github.com/OCA/ Yes, I've looked through the above. Again, quite overwhelming for those without institutional knowledge that I will only gain by using the platform. > It is important to know that most "repositories" on Github for OCA contain several "modules" within them, whereas the Odoo Apps and the Odoo-community.org link above are generally showing "modules only" (generally). > It takes some time but you can work through it. No doubt. I'm sure I will figure out the differences between modules and apps in due course. > I would be happy to help give you a tour. I am more of a "user" than a "programmer" but if I can do builds well, my goal is to use Odoo Community plus OCA apps. I have purchased a few and there are some good ones, but the rigorous build control of OCA is better, in my opinion, than many of the commercial addons. > People put in a whole lot of work here and they do it because they want/and need their systems to work well and the way they need them to work. I would really appreciate a tour. I can be found on LinkedIN, so please reach out and we can talk there. From what I have been able to find, I can see the amount of work and positive vibes that have been put out by the community and as I said above, I would really like to be able to contribute back, when I am in a position to do so. It's amazing how far the community has been able to come and can only imagine what others have developed. I hope to be able to count myself as one of the people who has been able to get the system into a place that works for all of my use cases. It's an incredible platform for a wide range of use cases. Charles
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by dev - 03:51 - 8 Feb 2023 -
Re: Website - download content
Thanks guys. Some interesting suggestions to follow up on.Torvald Baade BringsvorBringsvor Consulting AS - Developer, consultant, allrounderTel (+47) 4548 2848On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 8:36 PM Pedro M. Baeza <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:On OCA/dms you can upload files and organize by folders, and then share what you want, or give access to portal users with a convenient portal view:Regards._______________________________________________
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by Torvald Bringsvor - 10:16 - 3 Feb 2023 -
Re: Website - download content
On OCA/dms you can upload files and organize by folders, and then share what you want, or give access to portal users with a convenient portal view:Regards.
by Pedro M. Baeza - 08:36 - 2 Feb 2023 -
Re: Website - download content
Hi,
Here at Coop IT Easy, we have developped a module named document_hosting that seams to do what you are looking for.
https://github.com/coopiteasy/addons/tree/12.0/document_hosting
It let you upload documents (any type) with the backend interface. You can group them by categories. You can set if the document is public or not.
On the website there is an url which display the public documents for unconnected users and also the "private" document for connected users.
It is used on production for BEES coop, Brussels, Belgium : https://gestion.bees-coop.be/documents
This module needs documentation (readme is empty) and if you find it interesting, it would be nice to put it somewhere on an OCA repository (don't know which one is the best).
Also, small screen design of the web page can be improved but it's fuctionnal.
This module may also need to be migrated on newer odoo version (12.0 for the moment).
The slide show option that you requested may be done by simply creating a new page with a new design by extending this module. Images can by uploaded like other documents via the admin interface.
Best regards,Le 2 février 2023 14:07:40 GMT+01:00, Torvald Baade Bringsvor <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :HiHave a prospect that wants website users to be able to download content in the form of PDF or PPT files, possibly grouped into categories or themes. Which module would be a good fit for that?Also is there like a module for a photo album/slideshow? They have quite a few historical photos they want to display.Torvald Baade BringsvorBringsvor Consulting AS - Developer, consultant, allrounderTel (+47) 4548 2848_______________________________________________
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by Rémy Taymans - 08:26 - 2 Feb 2023 -
Re: Website - download content
hello!I would use E-LearningDaniel C.El jue, 2 feb 2023 a las 9:27, adyson10 (<notifications@odoo-community.org>) escribió:This is possible on enterprise is the documents module is installedAndyOn 2 Feb 2023 13:07, Torvald Baade Bringsvor <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:HiHave a prospect that wants website users to be able to download content in the form of PDF or PPT files, possibly grouped into categories or themes. Which module would be a good fit for that?Also is there like a module for a photo album/slideshow? They have quite a few historical photos they want to display.Torvald Baade BringsvorBringsvor Consulting AS - Developer, consultant, allrounderTel (+47) 4548 2848_______________________________________________
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by DANIEL CARRION - 05:06 - 2 Feb 2023