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Re: QWeb widget templates - unable to use extension inheritance mode?

I am no expert as well so I may be missing something crucial. What you describe is deprecated mechanism that doesn't allow in-place extension of the template. I mean you cannot change existing template without assigning it a new name (at least as far as I know). For both there is nice documentation online: https://www.odoo.com/documentation/13.0/reference/qweb.html#template-inheritance

Initially I tried to use that mechanism you mention as well. But there is this (marked in red) in main template:

<div t-name="website.contentMenu.dialog.edit">

<select class="form-control mb16" t-if="widget.roots">

<t t-foreach="widget.roots" t-as="root">

<option t-att-value="root.id"><t t-esc="root.name"/></option>

</t>

</select>

<ul class="oe_menu_editor list-unstyled">

<t t-foreach="widget.menu.children" t-as="submenu">

<t t-call="website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu"/>

</t>

</ul>

<div class="mt32">

<small class="float-right text-muted">

Drag to the right to get a submenu

</small>

<a href="#" class="js_add_menu">

<i class="fa fa-plus-circle"/> Add Menu Item

</a><br/>

<a href="#" class="js_add_menu" data-type="mega">

<i class="fa fa-plus-circle"/> Add Mega Menu Item

</a>

</div>

</div>

That is call to sub-template that has no associated JS object. So if I extended that template it would have different name so I would need to modify this template to reflect that. Tried and failed. Didn't work.

Best regards

Radovan

On štvrtok 6. augusta 2020 12:46:56 CEST Graeme Gellatly wrote:

> I never did it that way. I'm no expert but usually I use t-jquery

> t-operation t-extend style syntax. On Thu, 6 Aug 2020, 9:26 pm Radovan

> Skolnik, < radovan@skolnik.info [1] > wrote: Hello,

>

> I am working on a module that would allow to assgin icons to website menus

> to be rendered in custom theme. This is what I achieved:

>

>

> Everything works as expected but I stumbled to template inheritance issue on

> the first widget - that is template: 'website.contentMenu.dialog.edit'

> defined in /addons/website/static/src/xml/website.contentMenu.xml For

> individual menu items it uses recursively template

> 'website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu' that has no JavaScript object

> associated. Now I wanted to use extension inheritance to alter content of

> this sub-template to render image/icon. So my aim was to use something like

> this:

>

> <t t-inherit="website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu"

> t-inherit-mode="extension"> <xpath

> expr="//span[hasclass('input-group-append')]" position="inside"> <button

> type="button" t-att-class="submenu.fields['image']" aria-label="Menu Image"

> title="Menu Image"/> </xpath>

> </t>

>

> Now whetever I tried this didn't work for me. I also tried to use something

> similar on the main template which is used by my JavaScript object extended

> from original. Didn't work as well. If it took my template it would

> generate into HTML literally the content of outer <t> tag - so the HTML

> contained tags <xpath expr="..."> and so on.

>

> I solved it temporarily but copying both templates into my own file and

> modified them. But I would love to make this more elegant and extend the

> templates in-place as stated in documentation. Has anyone some experience

> with this? In all of the source code of Odoo 13.0, 12.0 and 11.0 I didn't

> find a single use of this feature for a reference.

>

> Thank you for any help. Best regards

>

> Radovan Skolnik

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by Radovan Skolnik - 01:31 - 6 Aug 2020
Re: QWeb widget templates - unable to use extension inheritance mode?

I never did it that way. I'm no expert but usually I use t-jquery t-operation t-extend style syntax.

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020, 9:26 pm Radovan Skolnik, <radovan@skolnik.info> wrote:
Hello,

I am working on a module that would allow to assgin icons to website menus to be rendered in custom theme. This is what I achieved:

Everything works as expected but I stumbled to template inheritance issue on the first widget - that is template: 'website.contentMenu.dialog.edit' defined in /addons/website/static/src/xml/website.contentMenu.xml For individual menu items it uses recursively template 'website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu' that has no JavaScript object associated. Now I wanted to use extension inheritance to alter content of this sub-template to render image/icon. So my aim was to use something like this:

<t t-inherit="website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu" t-inherit-mode="extension">

<xpath expr="//span[hasclass('input-group-append')]" position="inside">

<button type="button" t-att-class="submenu.fields['image']" aria-label="Menu Image" title="Menu Image"/>

</xpath>

</t>

Now whetever I tried this didn't work for me. I also tried to use something similar on the main template which is used by my JavaScript object extended from original. Didn't work as well. If it took my template it would generate into HTML literally the content of outer <t> tag - so the HTML contained tags <xpath expr="..."> and so on.

I solved it temporarily but copying both templates into my own file and modified them. But I would love to make this more elegant and extend the templates in-place as stated in documentation. Has anyone some experience with this? In all of the source code of Odoo 13.0, 12.0 and 11.0 I didn't find a single use of this feature for a reference.

Thank you for any help. Best regards

Radovan Skolnik

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by Graeme Gellatly - 12:45 - 6 Aug 2020
QWeb widget templates - unable to use extension inheritance mode?

Hello,

I am working on a module that would allow to assgin icons to website menus to be rendered in custom theme. This is what I achieved:

Everything works as expected but I stumbled to template inheritance issue on the first widget - that is template: 'website.contentMenu.dialog.edit' defined in /addons/website/static/src/xml/website.contentMenu.xml For individual menu items it uses recursively template 'website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu' that has no JavaScript object associated. Now I wanted to use extension inheritance to alter content of this sub-template to render image/icon. So my aim was to use something like this:

<t t-inherit="website.contentMenu.dialog.submenu" t-inherit-mode="extension">

<xpath expr="//span[hasclass('input-group-append')]" position="inside">

<button type="button" t-att-class="submenu.fields['image']" aria-label="Menu Image" title="Menu Image"/>

</xpath>

</t>

Now whetever I tried this didn't work for me. I also tried to use something similar on the main template which is used by my JavaScript object extended from original. Didn't work as well. If it took my template it would generate into HTML literally the content of outer <t> tag - so the HTML contained tags <xpath expr="..."> and so on.

I solved it temporarily but copying both templates into my own file and modified them. But I would love to make this more elegant and extend the templates in-place as stated in documentation. Has anyone some experience with this? In all of the source code of Odoo 13.0, 12.0 and 11.0 I didn't find a single use of this feature for a reference.

Thank you for any help. Best regards

Radovan Skolnik

by Radovan Skolnik - 11:26 - 6 Aug 2020

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Re: OCA module for inventory coverage?
Hello Alex,

We did something for our customers (Food Coops in Belgium and Switzerland) to help decide what should be re-purchased:
https://github.com/beescoop/Obeesdoo/tree/12.0/beesdoo_stock_coverage
It does not provide a report, but a simple tree view:
And on each product you can decide the number of days on which you want to do the calculation:

It can be used with this module (that creates an intermediary purchase order to try different quantities to be purchased and see the stock coverage based on the quantity):
https://github.com/beescoop/Obeesdoo/tree/12.0/purchase_order_generator

We would be happy to propose them to OCA if they are considered useful!

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:32:08 -0000

Hi Alex,

Maybe you can look into https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-reporting/ if you find a module that makes you happy.

That one https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-reporting/tree/12.0/stock_inventory_turnover_report could but a little bit specific.

Have a nice day

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:02 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Do we have a module for inventory coverage in the OCA?

I need to produce a report giving how long the current stock for a given
product will last given the average sale rate of the last X days.

I've seen a couple modules of Odoo App store for this, but I'd prefer
having an OCA solution.

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Re: OCA module for inventory coverage?
Hi Alex,

Maybe you can look into https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-reporting/ if you find a module that makes you happy.

That one https://github.com/OCA/stock-logistics-reporting/tree/12.0/stock_inventory_turnover_report could but a little bit specific.

Have a nice day

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:02 AM Alexandre Fayolle <alexandre.fayolle@camptocamp.com> wrote:
Hello everyone, Do we have a module for inventory coverage in the OCA? I need to produce a report giving how long the current stock for a given product will last given the average sale rate of the last X days. I've seen a couple modules of Odoo App store for this, but I'd prefer having an OCA solution. -- Alexandre Fayolle Chef de Projet Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30 Camptocamp France SAS 18 rue du Lac Saint André 73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac France http://www.camptocamp.com

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by Denis Roussel - 10:31 - 3 Aug 2020

OCA module for inventory coverage?

Hello everyone,

Do we have a module for inventory coverage in the OCA?

I need to produce a report giving how long the current stock for a given
product will last given the average sale rate of the last X days.

I've seen a couple modules of Odoo App store for this, but I'd prefer
having an OCA solution.


-- 
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Tel : +33 4 58 48 20 30

Camptocamp France SAS
18 rue du Lac Saint André
73 370 Le Bourget-du-Lac
France

http://www.camptocamp.com

by Alexandre Fayolle - 10:00 - 3 Aug 2020

RE: Financial budgeting in V14

Does anyone know what Odoo are doing to enhance financial budgeting in V14. I know some spreadsheet like features are being added to the pivot table view but how exactly this will translate to the budgeting requirement I am not sure. I have not been able to find anything on RunBot.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

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by Jonathan Wilson - 03:25 - 2 Aug 2020

Re: Issue with OCA module : auth_session_timeout

Please can anyone help here. Thanks a lot

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Le jeu. 23 juil. 2020 à 15:51, GHANDI Othmane <othmane.ghandi@gmail.com> a écrit :
Hi Community

When installing the module auth_session_timeout for inactivity timeout, the popup/wizard od Odoo session expired appears many time (You need to click many times so that it goes, as showing in this GIF)

If anyone faced the same issue or succeeded to solve it, please reveal yourself 😁 no one will hurt you.

Big thanks

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by Othmane Ghandi - 10:35 - 31 Jul 2020

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RE: Operation related to Asset Management

Kitti,

Basic features that about every company managing financial assets in odoo should imho be in the base module.

Extra features that impact only certain companies (e.g. separate calculation for taxes) are better in a separate module.

Luc

From: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:07
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Kevin,

Thank you very much! Please tag us, so we can help review it.

So, I think yours module will be on value adjustment (plus other), right? may be I should start with asset under construction (split / merge).

@Luc De Meyer

I am just curious why you think most features should be in account_asset_manageent. While, I think it will be good to be separated, and it is the nature of Odoo and OCA. WDYT?

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 4:26 AM Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:

Kitti

I am migrating our module to V13 – quite a few changes as Odoo have totally changed the way depreciation works. I’ll send through once completed

From: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:17 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Thank you all,

@Jonathan, I am not quite familiar with the Book and Tax. I have asked our functional consult, and we think it is also a case in our country, although it is not very common (still not sure it is the same thing as yours). Do you have more detail on what it is, somewhere I can read?

@Luc, from what I understand here, we need the same, but the naming may be a bit different (we also need the right business name). So, here is the refined list of TODO from me, please help redefine it, or suggest better terms if you are certain.

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?
Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue
Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?
· Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge
At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.
· Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split
When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.
Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management
· Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
· Depreciation start date separate from asset date
@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,
Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:
I think we should make two documents
Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:
We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin
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From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.
I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

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2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,
Change Ownership,
i.e, change cost center (analytic)
Value Adjustment,
i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased
Transfer (merge or split),
i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.
We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?
Kitti
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by Luc De Meyer. - 08:31 - 30 Jul 2020

Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Kevin,

Thank you very much! Please tag us, so we can help review it.

So, I think yours module will be on value adjustment (plus other), right? may be I should start with asset under construction (split / merge).

@Luc De Meyer

I am just curious why you think most features should be in account_asset_manageent. While, I think it will be good to be separated, and it is the nature of Odoo and OCA. WDYT?

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 4:26 AM Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:

Kitti

I am migrating our module to V13 – quite a few changes as Odoo have totally changed the way depreciation works. I’ll send through once completed

From: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:17 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Thank you all,

@Jonathan, I am not quite familiar with the Book and Tax. I have asked our functional consult, and we think it is also a case in our country, although it is not very common (still not sure it is the same thing as yours). Do you have more detail on what it is, somewhere I can read?

@Luc, from what I understand here, we need the same, but the naming may be a bit different (we also need the right business name). So, here is the refined list of TODO from me, please help redefine it, or suggest better terms if you are certain.

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?

Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue

Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?

· Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge

At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.

· Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split

When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.

Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management

· Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal

· Depreciation start date separate from asset date

@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:

I think we should make two documents

Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:

We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin

ERP Capability Manager, Solnet

+64 22 651 3753 | +64 9 977 5805 | Visit our blog | Connect on LinkedIn

From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.

I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

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P: +61 3 9135 1900

M: +61 4 000 17 444

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10/435 Williamstown Road

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:

Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,

Change Ownership,

i.e, change cost center (analytic)

Value Adjustment,

i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased

Transfer (merge or split),

i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.

We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?

Kitti

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by Kitti Upariphutthiphong - 04:06 - 30 Jul 2020

RE: Operation related to Asset Management

Kitti

I am migrating our module to V13 – quite a few changes as Odoo have totally changed the way depreciation works. I’ll send through once completed

From: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2020 4:17 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Thank you all,

@Jonathan, I am not quite familiar with the Book and Tax. I have asked our functional consult, and we think it is also a case in our country, although it is not very common (still not sure it is the same thing as yours). Do you have more detail on what it is, somewhere I can read?

@Luc, from what I understand here, we need the same, but the naming may be a bit different (we also need the right business name). So, here is the refined list of TODO from me, please help redefine it, or suggest better terms if you are certain.

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?

Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue

Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?

· Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge

At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.

· Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split

When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.

Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management

· Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal

· Depreciation start date separate from asset date

@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:

I think we should make two documents

Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com

P: +61 3 9135 1900

M: +61 4 000 17 444

Linkedin

10/435 Williamstown Road

Port Melbourne VIC 3207

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:

We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin

ERP Capability Manager, Solnet

+64 22 651 3753 | +64 9 977 5805 | Visit our blog | Connect on LinkedIn

From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.

I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com

P: +61 3 9135 1900

M: +61 4 000 17 444

Linkedin

10/435 Williamstown Road

Port Melbourne VIC 3207

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:

Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,

Change Ownership,

i.e, change cost center (analytic)

Value Adjustment,

i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased

Transfer (merge or split),

i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.

We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?

Kitti

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by Kevin McMenamin - 11:26 - 29 Jul 2020

Re: Project vs Sale Orders=> Margin

Only the Community one, that’s why I’m struggling to find the needed module

On 28 Jul 2020, at 22:52, Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com> wrote:
If we are talking about enterprise Odoo, then that is the P&L report sliced by the analytic.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

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P: +61 3 9135 1900
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 01:27, Alexey Pelykh <alexey.pelykh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear community,

If there’s a project that is linked to a analytic account, and multiple sale orders (through invoices) “contribute” to that analytic account, is there a module that would give Margin at analytic account or project level?

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by Alexey Pelykh <alexey.pelykh@gmail.com> - 01:00 - 29 Jul 2020

Re: Project vs Sale Orders=> Margin

If we are talking about enterprise Odoo, then that is the P&L report sliced by the analytic.

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com

P: +61 3 9135 1900

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10/435 Williamstown Road

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 01:27, Alexey Pelykh <alexey.pelykh@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear community,

If there’s a project that is linked to a analytic account, and multiple sale orders (through invoices) “contribute” to that analytic account, is there a module that would give Margin at analytic account or project level?

Kind regards,
Alexey
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by Jonathan Wilson - 10:51 - 28 Jul 2020

Project vs Sale Orders=> Margin

Dear community,

If there’s a project that is linked to a analytic account, and multiple sale orders (through invoices) “contribute” to that analytic account, is there a module that would give Margin at analytic account or project level?

Kind regards,
Alexey

by Alexey Pelykh <alexey.pelykh@gmail.com> - 05:25 - 28 Jul 2020

Re: Request for being "CRM, Sales & Marketing Maintainers" PSC representative

Yeah, thanks.

Regards.

by Pedro M. Baeza - 02:16 - 28 Jul 2020
Re: Request for being "CRM, Sales & Marketing Maintainers" PSC representative

Hi Pedro,

I added you yesterday and it looks like the sync script did its job.

Best regards,

-sbi

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:26 AM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
+1 of course!

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rafael Blasco <rafael.blasco@tecnativa.com> wrote:
+1

De: Kitti Upariphutthiphong [mailto:kittiu@ecosoft.co.th]
Enviado el: viernes, 24 de julio de 2020 15:32
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+1 and thank you.
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, 14:57 Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa), <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> wrote:
As stated in https://github.com/OCA/commission/issues/247#issuecomment-663392257, there's no PSC representative for it, so I'm applying for not having that hole.

You can see my whole activity in https://github.com/pedrobaeza, touching frequently OCA/CRM, OCA/commission and other related repos.

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by Stéphane Bidoul - 02:11 - 28 Jul 2020
Re: Request for being "CRM, Sales & Marketing Maintainers" PSC representative

+1 of course!

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rafael Blasco <rafael.blasco@tecnativa.com> wrote:
+1

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+1 and thank you.
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, 14:57 Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa), <pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com> wrote:
As stated in https://github.com/OCA/commission/issues/247#issuecomment-663392257, there's no PSC representative for it, so I'm applying for not having that hole.

You can see my whole activity in https://github.com/pedrobaeza, touching frequently OCA/CRM, OCA/commission and other related repos.

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by Denis Roussel - 08:25 - 27 Jul 2020

RE: Operation related to Asset Management

My coments , cf inline (>>> marks)

From: Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th>
Sent: Saturday, 25 July 2020 06:17
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Thank you all,

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?

Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue

Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?

>>> The value of an asset can be re-evaluated and become higher or lower. I don’t think we need to invent a separate module name but add it as a feature into the account_asset_management module.

· Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge

At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.

· Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split

When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.

>>> Imho also a feature to add into the account_asset_management module.

Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management

· Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal

· Depreciation start date separate from asset date

@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:

I think we should make two documents
Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:
We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin
ERP Capability Manager, Solnet
+64 22 651 3753 | +64 9 977 5805 | Visit our blog | Connect on LinkedIn

From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.
I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

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P: +61 3 9135 1900
M: +61 4 000 17 444
Linkedin
10/435 Williamstown Road
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,
Change Ownership,
i.e, change cost center (analytic)
Value Adjustment,
i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased
Transfer (merge or split),
i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.
We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?
Kitti
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by Luc De Meyer. - 05:50 - 25 Jul 2020

Re: Operation related to Asset Management

@kitti We sometimes call "Directors" and tax depreciation. Here is not a bad description. Basically they are different deprecation methods/formulas for the same item - one for the company's GL and the other for the tax department. The directors may value the assets differently from what is reported in the company's tax returns. The "Book" depreciation is the one that is recorded in the GL. No problems if this is a separate module. Conceptually I think it would be fairly straight forward to extend the base Asset model (not being a programmer!).

The other features would certainly be welcome.

Like I said I may be able to get some funding if that makes things easier?

Kind regards

Jonathan Wilson

Chief Sales and Innovation Executive

WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:

Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo

How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System

Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner

2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific

Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project

"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com

P: +61 3 9135 1900

M: +61 4 000 17 444

10/435 Williamstown Road

Port Melbourne VIC 3207

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 14:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:

Thank you all,

@Jonathan, I am not quite familiar with the Book and Tax. I have asked our functional consult, and we think it is also a case in our country, although it is not very common (still not sure it is the same thing as yours). Do you have more detail on what it is, somewhere I can read?

@Luc, from what I understand here, we need the same, but the naming may be a bit different (we also need the right business name). So, here is the refined list of TODO from me, please help redefine it, or suggest better terms if you are certain.

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?
Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue
Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?
Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge
At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.
Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split
When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.
Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management
Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,
Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:
I think we should make two documents
Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com
P: +61 3 9135 1900
M: +61 4 000 17 444
Linkedin
10/435 Williamstown Road
Port Melbourne VIC 3207
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:
We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin
ERP Capability Manager, Solnet
+64 22 651 3753 | +64 9 977 5805 | Visit our blog | Connect on LinkedIn

From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.
I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com
P: +61 3 9135 1900
M: +61 4 000 17 444
Linkedin
10/435 Williamstown Road
Port Melbourne VIC 3207
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,
Change Ownership,
i.e, change cost center (analytic)
Value Adjustment,
i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased
Transfer (merge or split),
i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.
We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?
Kitti
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by Jonathan Wilson - 07:01 - 25 Jul 2020

Re: Operation related to Asset Management
Thank you all,

@Jonathan, I am not quite familiar with the Book and Tax. I have asked our functional consult, and we think it is also a case in our country, although it is not very common (still not sure it is the same thing as yours). Do you have more detail on what it is, somewhere I can read?

@Luc, from what I understand here, we need the same, but the naming may be a bit different (we also need the right business name). So, here is the refined list of TODO from me, please help redefine it, or suggest better terms if you are certain.

Should I call this set of feature, Asset Operations? Which I think it should be separated, WDYT?
Asset Revaluation -- account_asset_management_oper_revalue
Not only impairment but value increment, so I think this name is ok?
Asset Merge - account_asset_management_oper_merge

At first I used transfer for both merge and split
Mainly used for case assets under construction that one or multiple assets will become a new asset.

Asset Split - account_asset_management_oper_split

When bought in a big asset, that can be decomposed it to several active asset and start depreciation.

Also notable feature mentioned by Kevin, I think should be the enhancement to the account_asset_management

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Depreciation start date separate from asset date

@Kevin, your sharing would be great.

As for the Book and Tax, I also think it should be seperated feature. I also don't know much about it yet.

Thank you for feedback,

Kitti

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:37 PM <luc.demeyer@noviat.com> wrote:

I think we should make two documents
Asset impairment (a feature to be added to the base module)
Tax depreciation (imho a separate add-on module)

The other two are small features already available in some form in the current module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 23:02
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

If we could get a requirements & design document for the new features, including book & tax methods, I pretty sure I could get funding from a customer.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com
P: +61 3 9135 1900
M: +61 4 000 17 444
Linkedin
10/435 Williamstown Road
Port Melbourne VIC 3207
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 05:32, Kevin McMenamin <Kevin.McMenamin@solnet.co.nz> wrote:
We have done quite a bit around assets and happy to share (currently still on V11)

Proper handling of gain/loss on disposal
Asset impairment
Depreciation start date separate from asset date
Accounting & Tax depreciation rates (we handle tax via reporting as typically done annually)

Plus have tidied up various accounting elements to ensure works correctly.

Happy to share.

Regards

Kevin McMenamin
ERP Capability Manager, Solnet
+64 22 651 3753 | +64 9 977 5805 | Visit our blog | Connect on LinkedIn

From: luc.demeyer@noviat.com <luc.demeyer@noviat.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 7:27 PM
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: RE: Operation related to Asset Management

I am not sure if we need to add the book & tax feature into the base module.
I think it’s more a feature for an add-on module.

Luc

From: Jonathan Wilson <jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 08:33
To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Subject: Re: Operation related to Asset Management

Hi Kitti

My experience with decent Asset apps is that they have that functionality. Additionally, they usually have 2 modes of depreciation - "Book" and "Tax" - if we could add those features (and the ones you mentioned) I would fee a lot more comfortable offering up Odoo as a decent asset register.

Kind regards
Jonathan Wilson
Chief Sales and Innovation Executive
WilldooIT Pty Ltd

PS: blogs and interview from the Odoo 2019 experience on our website

Recent Linkedin articles:
Transforming traditional companies' operations with Odoo
How to Assess if you've Outgrown Your Business Accounting or ERP System
Recent Blog: 5 Steps to Selecting a New ERP System for Your Business

First Australian Odoo GOLD partner
2017, 2015 & 2013 Odoo Best Partner Asia/Pacific
Creators of Odoo-Pentaho integration project
"Making growth through technology easy"

E: jonathan.wilson@willdooit.com
P: +61 3 9135 1900
M: +61 4 000 17 444
Linkedin
10/435 Williamstown Road
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 16:17, Kitti Upariphutthiphong <kittiu@ecosoft.co.th> wrote:
Dear community,

My I check whether the following feature is relevant to OCA or being useful.

We done Odoo and got to learn some practice from an organization that deal with a lot of asset. Both normal asset, low valued asset, asset in transit, asset under construction.

They have asset operation like,
Change Ownership,
i.e, change cost center (analytic)
Value Adjustment,
i.e., knowing sometime later that, there are additional expenditure into that assets and so the value should be increased
Transfer (merge or split),
i.e., 2 asset under construction, merged as new final working Asset.
An normal acquired asset that splits into smaller assets.
We would love to port these features into OCA. But I am not very sure it will be useful, nor is it generic enough.

Any comments?
Kitti
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