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Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hi Bettina, 

thanks for this insight. Obviously my PM heart agrees. By doing such
project we should also ask the rather business oriented questions on 
what may happen next in the mind of the customer and also give a
helping hand and ideas on conceiving this future.

Nevertheless if you boil it down to engineering practise it is often
relatively cumbersome to start out with a "simple" solution, because
simple in case of Odoo (from a business perspective) means "using" a
standard from the OCA (which is usually well elaborated on overall and
very generic needs and integrated with lots of other modules) or doing
exactly what you need (now or for the near future).

If you one uses the OCA standard this is simple as it doesn't require
you to reinvent something and is also desireable from the
standardization point of view, but it comes with a certain payload
(maintaining the code and all its dependencies also for the 80% of the
functionality included you never or seldomly need). On the other just
adding what you need is easy as it doesn't involve too much development
(and therefore budget discussion with the customer) but often evolves
into something that becomes more and more like the original OCA
standard after N interations (obviously not desireable as this is a
waste of resources as well).

One of the problems that developers often have is that the OCA / Odoo
standard in the first place looks like something that you need to have
a PhD for to understand in its entirety.

As far as i understood Peter he is just questioning (with regard to
CRM) if it would really be desireable to use stock.production.lot and
make that work with the typical sale.order object or rather use
product.product and extend it (obviously loosing complexity trough
depence but also information such as traceability in stock moves).

This is not only to be answered with the concrete business domain at
hand but also with the opinion of colleagues around the globe that
faced a similar problem in the past.

I personally always tend to go for the "standard" OCA solution but for
instance in terms of "ease of use" for the end user that is rather
seldomly a very good shot in the first place

Thank you very much for your opinion on the matter

Best Frederik
 


Am Montag, den 24.08.2020, 13:26 +0000 schrieb Bettina Pfeifer
dygytally.de:

> Hi Peter, 

> 

> sometimes it helps to imagine what you (your future odoo client) want

> to know after one, two, three ... years of sales. What would you like

> to know about all your sales, the products you sold. Which ones made

> trouble after sales, which ones made your odoo client happy, which

> ones led to more trades, which ones where hard to get and easy to

> sell or vice versa. Which ones need a lot of warehouse space, which

> ones need special care. How do you want to report on the past. What

> decisions should be made for the future. 

> 

> Maybe this helps a bit to decide on your current question. Sometimes

> these questions make the odoo client reveal their true needs. 

> 

> And if you are able to generate the "list" you mention, that might be

> good starting point. 

> 

> And the original serial numbers of the used machines themselves

> should be used, as long as they have one. Otherwise you could create

> an own serial number.   

> 

> In general, why not start as easy as possible, until other

> requirements arise while using odoo. 

> 

> Regards, Bettina

> 

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> Am 24.08.20 um 13:17 schrieb Peter Hahn:

> > Hi David,

> > 

> > thanks for your suggestion. I didn’t knew the module.

> > 

> > I’m still not really convinced using serial numbers is the right

> > thing

> > here in general.

> > Sure it would be for smart phones and stuff like this, but I would

> > really like to hear opinions about what problems may arise in case

> > of

> > just using `product.product`.

> > 

> > At first glance this seams to be way more simple. Especially I

> > think

> > it’s intuitive for the users because in their business mindset they

> > don’t think of _machines_ and _instances of machines_ but just a

> > specific _machine_ from their list.

> > 

> > Our use case to me looks more like being the base machine a

> > `product.template` and the unique machine a `product.product`.

> > 

> > However I wouldn’t use all the `product.attribute` machinery  for

> > this,

> > of course.

> > 

> > I hope to hear more opinions from the list about this.

> > 

> > Thanks. Regards, Peter

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > Am 21.08.20 um 17:02 schrieb David Beal:

> > 

> > > Hi Peter,

> > 

> > > Consider these modules

> > 

> > > 

> > https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

> > [1]  

> > https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

> > [2]

> > 

> > > and in pending migration

> > 

> > > https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144 [3]

> > 

> > > Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different,

> > consider the v12 one

> > 

> > > Best regards

> > 

> > > 

> > 

> > > David BEAL - akretion.com [4]  Consultant

> > 

> > > Odoo Intégration / Développement

> > 

> > > Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn < peter.hahn@initos.com

> > [5] > a écrit :

> > 

> > > Hello,

> > 

> > > I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling

> > unique

> > 

> > > products.

> > 

> > > The products are used machines. So in general one could think of

> > a

> > 

> > > generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain

> > instance of it.

> > 

> > > But since these are used items, they come with a lot of

> > customizations

> > 

> > > and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.

> > 

> > > So it’s more like the product == instance.

> > 

> > > We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and

> > 

> > > `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research

> > in the

> > 

> > > odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

> > 

> > > To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about

> > tractability of

> > 

> > > instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since

> > 

> > > `stock.production.lot` is very tightly tied to stock operations.

> > 

> > > We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM,

> > Quote,

> > 

> > > SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put

> > `stock.production.lot`

> > 

> > > on `sale.order.lines`.

> > 

> > > The other option would be just going for `product.product` and

> > assume

> > 

> > > product == product instance.

> > 

> > > I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe

> > other/better

> > 

> > > approaches.

> > 

> > > 

> > 

> > > Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a

> > base

> > 

> > > for selling unique items in odoo.

> > 

> > > Thanks. Regards, Peter

> > 

> > > 

> > 

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> > > 

> > 

> > > 

> > 

> > > 

> > 

> > > [1] 

> > https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

> > 

> > > [2] 

> > https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

> > 

> > > [3] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144

> > 

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> > 

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> > 

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by Frederik Kramer - 04:11 - 24 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)


Am 24.08.20 um 15:26 schrieb Bettina Pfeifer dygytally.de:

> sometimes it helps to imagine what you (your future odoo client)

> want to know after one, two, three ... years of sales. What would

> you like to know about all your sales, the products you sold.

> Which ones made trouble after sales, which ones made your odoo

> client happy, which ones led to more trades, which ones where hard

> to get and easy to sell or vice versa. Which ones need a lot of

> warehouse space, which ones need special care. How do you want to

> report on the past. What decisions should be made for the future.

Thanks. Good questions.


> And if you are able to generate the "list" you mention, that

> might be good starting point.

This list already exists and with a lot of specfic attributes added to
each item (machine) including each having it’s own price and even
possible different tax.

That’s why I doubt it’s a good idea to model these list/items using
`stock.production.lot` customizations.

The only thing that some machines may have in common is the base model
and manufacturer.
So from non-technical perspective it’s more like “product & variants”.
Not like “product & lots of identical product items”, like e.g. in the
smart phone case.)


Regards. Peter

by Pete Hahn - 04:00 - 24 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hi Peter,

sometimes it helps to imagine what you (your future odoo client) want to know after one, two, three ... years of sales. What would you like to know about all your sales, the products you sold. Which ones made trouble after sales, which ones made your odoo client happy, which ones led to more trades, which ones where hard to get and easy to sell or vice versa. Which ones need a lot of warehouse space, which ones need special care. How do you want to report on the past. What decisions should be made for the future.

Maybe this helps a bit to decide on your current question. Sometimes these questions make the odoo client reveal their true needs.

And if you are able to generate the "list" you mention, that might be good starting point.

And the original serial numbers of the used machines themselves should be used, as long as they have one. Otherwise you could create an own serial number.

In general, why not start as easy as possible, until other requirements arise while using odoo.

Regards, Bettina

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Am 24.08.20 um 13:17 schrieb Peter Hahn:

Hi David,

thanks for your suggestion. I didn’t knew the module.

I’m still not really convinced using serial numbers is the right thing
here in general.
Sure it would be for smart phones and stuff like this, but I would
really like to hear opinions about what problems may arise in case of
just using `product.product`.

At first glance this seams to be way more simple. Especially I think
it’s intuitive for the users because in their business mindset they
don’t think of _machines_ and _instances of machines_ but just a
specific _machine_ from their list.

Our use case to me looks more like being the base machine a
`product.template` and the unique machine a `product.product`.

However I wouldn’t use all the `product.attribute` machinery  for this,
of course.

I hope to hear more opinions from the list about this.

Thanks. Regards, Peter



Am 21.08.20 um 17:02 schrieb David Beal:

> Hi Peter,

> Consider these modules

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection [1]  https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator [2]

> and in pending migration

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144 [3]

> Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different, consider the v12 one

> Best regards

> 

> David BEAL - akretion.com [4]  Consultant

> Odoo Intégration / Développement

> Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn < peter.hahn@initos.com [5] > a écrit :

> Hello,

> I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling unique

> products.

> The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a

> generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance of it.

> But since these are used items, they come with a lot of customizations

> and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.

> So it’s more like the product == instance.

> We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and

> `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in the

> odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

> To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about tractability of

> instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since

> `stock.production.lot` is very tightly tied to stock operations.

> We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM, Quote,

> SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put `stock.production.lot`

> on `sale.order.lines`.

> The other option would be just going for `product.product` and assume

> product == product instance.

> I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better

> approaches.

> 

> Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a base

> for selling unique items in odoo.

> Thanks. Regards, Peter

> 

> _______________________________________________

> Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 [6]

> Post to: mailto: contributors@odoo-community.org [7]

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> 

> 

> [1] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

> [2] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

> [3] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144

> [4] http://akretion.com

> [5] mailto:peter.hahn@initos.com

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by Bettina Pfeifer. - 03:26 - 24 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)


Am 21.08.20 um 19:04 schrieb David Beal:

> 

> Why not a lot_attribute_set module ?

> 

Because I think that our customers used machines unique enough that
treating each as an individual product is OK and less complex and more
natural in terms of all the necessary interactions going from CRM to SO
etc.

I think that the product+lot concept is more for more generic products
where you sell hundreds of items and these items do not differ much from
the base product (except of quality issues, warranty etc.)

Thanks. Regards. Peter

by Pete Hahn - 01:21 - 24 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hi David,

thanks for your suggestion. I didn’t knew the module.

I’m still not really convinced using serial numbers is the right thing
here in general.
Sure it would be for smart phones and stuff like this, but I would
really like to hear opinions about what problems may arise in case of
just using `product.product`.

At first glance this seams to be way more simple. Especially I think
it’s intuitive for the users because in their business mindset they
don’t think of _machines_ and _instances of machines_ but just a
specific _machine_ from their list.

Our use case to me looks more like being the base machine a
`product.template` and the unique machine a `product.product`.

However I wouldn’t use all the `product.attribute` machinery  for this,
of course.

I hope to hear more opinions from the list about this.

Thanks. Regards, Peter



Am 21.08.20 um 17:02 schrieb David Beal:

> Hi Peter,

> Consider these modules

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection [1]  https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator [2]

> and in pending migration

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144 [3]

> Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different, consider the v12 one

> Best regards

> 

> David BEAL - akretion.com [4]  Consultant

> Odoo Intégration / Développement

> Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn < peter.hahn@initos.com [5] > a écrit :

> Hello,

> I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling unique

> products.

> The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a

> generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance of it.

> But since these are used items, they come with a lot of customizations

> and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.

> So it’s more like the product == instance.

> We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and

> `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in the

> odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

> To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about tractability of

> instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since

> `stock.production.lot` is very tightly tied to stock operations.

> We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM, Quote,

> SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put `stock.production.lot`

> on `sale.order.lines`.

> The other option would be just going for `product.product` and assume

> product == product instance.

> I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better

> approaches.

> 

> Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a base

> for selling unique items in odoo.

> Thanks. Regards, Peter

> 

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> [2] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

> [3] https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144

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by Pete Hahn - 01:16 - 24 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

If you have opportunity to propagate v12 to v13 it could be nice.

If not, I have to do it myself but not in the short term.

David BEAL

Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 17:53, David Beal <david.beal@akretion.com> a écrit :

see https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/issues/1166

To understand why the difference between v12 and v13

Bonne journée

David BEAL - akretion.com

Consultant

Odoo Intégration / Développement

Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 17:12, Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com> a écrit :

Hi David, hi Peter, 

i think especially 

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

pretty much seems to be what is needed in that use case. Automatic lot
generation is probably no what you (we) want when dealing with
expensive machinery ;-)

Thanks for the quick response. Appreciated!

Best and have a nice weekend 
Frederik

Am Freitag, den 21.08.2020, 15:02 +0000 schrieb David Beal:


> Hi Peter,


> 


> Consider these modules


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator


> 


>  and in pending migration


> 


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144


> 


> Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different,


> consider the v12 one


> 


> Best regards


> 


> 


> David BEAL - akretion.com


> Consultant


> Odoo Intégration / Développement


> 


> 


> Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn <peter.hahn@initos.com> a


> écrit :


> > Hello,


> > 


> > I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling


> > unique


> > products.


> > 


> > The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a


> > generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance


> > of it.


> > But since these are used items, they come with a lot of


> > customizations


> > and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.


> > So it’s more like the product == instance.


> > 


> > We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and


> > `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in


> > the


> > odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.


> > 


> > To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about


> > tractability of


> > instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since


> > `stock.production.lot`  is very tightly tied to stock operations.


> > 


> > We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM,


> > Quote,


> > SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put


> > `stock.production.lot`


> > on `sale.order.lines`.


> > 


> > The other option would be just going for `product.product` and


> > assume


> > product == product instance.


> > 


> > I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better


> > approaches.


> > 


> > 


> > Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a


> > base


> > for selling unique items in odoo.


> > 


> > Thanks. Regards, Peter


> > _______________________________________________


> > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15


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by David BEAL - 06:01 - 21 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

see https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/issues/1166

To understand why the difference between v12 and v13

Bonne journée

David BEAL - akretion.com

Consultant

Odoo Intégration / Développement

Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 17:12, Frederik Kramer <frederik.kramer@initos.com> a écrit :

Hi David, hi Peter, 

i think especially 

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

pretty much seems to be what is needed in that use case. Automatic lot
generation is probably no what you (we) want when dealing with
expensive machinery ;-)

Thanks for the quick response. Appreciated!

Best and have a nice weekend 
Frederik

Am Freitag, den 21.08.2020, 15:02 +0000 schrieb David Beal:


> Hi Peter,


> 


> Consider these modules


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator


> 


>  and in pending migration


> 


> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144


> 


> Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different,


> consider the v12 one


> 


> Best regards


> 


> 


> David BEAL - akretion.com


> Consultant


> Odoo Intégration / Développement


> 


> 


> Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn <peter.hahn@initos.com> a


> écrit :


> > Hello,


> > 


> > I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling


> > unique


> > products.


> > 


> > The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a


> > generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance


> > of it.


> > But since these are used items, they come with a lot of


> > customizations


> > and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.


> > So it’s more like the product == instance.


> > 


> > We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and


> > `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in


> > the


> > odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.


> > 


> > To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about


> > tractability of


> > instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since


> > `stock.production.lot`  is very tightly tied to stock operations.


> > 


> > We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM,


> > Quote,


> > SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put


> > `stock.production.lot`


> > on `sale.order.lines`.


> > 


> > The other option would be just going for `product.product` and


> > assume


> > product == product instance.


> > 


> > I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better


> > approaches.


> > 


> > 


> > Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a


> > base


> > for selling unique items in odoo.


> > 


> > Thanks. Regards, Peter


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by David BEAL - 05:56 - 21 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hi David, hi Peter, 

i think especially 

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

pretty much seems to be what is needed in that use case. Automatic lot
generation is probably no what you (we) want when dealing with
expensive machinery ;-)

Thanks for the quick response. Appreciated!

Best and have a nice weekend 
Frederik

Am Freitag, den 21.08.2020, 15:02 +0000 schrieb David Beal:

> Hi Peter,

> 

> Consider these modules

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

> 

>  and in pending migration

> 

> https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144

> 

> Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different,

> consider the v12 one

> 

> Best regards

> 

> 

> David BEAL - akretion.com

> Consultant

> Odoo Intégration / Développement

> 

> 

> Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn <peter.hahn@initos.com> a

> écrit :

> > Hello,

> > 

> > I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling

> > unique

> > products.

> > 

> > The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a

> > generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance

> > of it.

> > But since these are used items, they come with a lot of

> > customizations

> > and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.

> > So it’s more like the product == instance.

> > 

> > We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and

> > `stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in

> > the

> > odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

> > 

> > To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about

> > tractability of

> > instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since

> > `stock.production.lot`  is very tightly tied to stock operations.

> > 

> > We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM,

> > Quote,

> > SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put

> > `stock.production.lot`

> > on `sale.order.lines`.

> > 

> > The other option would be just going for `product.product` and

> > assume

> > product == product instance.

> > 

> > I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better

> > approaches.

> > 

> > 

> > Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a

> > base

> > for selling unique items in odoo.

> > 

> > Thanks. Regards, Peter

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by Frederik Kramer - 05:11 - 21 Aug 2020

Re: Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hi Peter,

Consider these modules

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_selection

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/tree/12.0/sale_order_lot_generator

and in pending migration

https://github.com/OCA/sale-workflow/pull/1144

Note that sale_order_lot_selection in v12 and v13 are different, consider the v12 one

Best regards

David BEAL - akretion.com

Consultant

Odoo Intégration / Développement

Le ven. 21 août 2020 à 15:36, Peter Hahn <peter.hahn@initos.com> a écrit :

Hello,

I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling unique
products.

The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a
generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance of it.
But since these are used items, they come with a lot of customizations
and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.
So it’s more like the product == instance.

We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and
`stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in the
odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about tractability of
instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since
`stock.production.lot`  is very tightly tied to stock operations.

We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM, Quote,
SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put `stock.production.lot`
on `sale.order.lines`.

The other option would be just going for `product.product` and assume
product == product instance.

I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better
approaches.


Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a base
for selling unique items in odoo.

Thanks. Regards, Peter

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by David BEAL - 05:01 - 21 Aug 2020

Best model for selling unique products (used machines)

Hello,

I have a hard time to decide which Odoo model to use for selling unique
products.

The products are used machines. So in general one could think of a
generic product with manufacturer and model and a certain instance of it.
But since these are used items, they come with a lot of customizations
and other instance specific attributes like operation hours etc.
So it’s more like the product == instance.

We thought about using `product.product` for the brand/model and
`stock.production.lot` for the instance, but after some research in the
odoo v12 code I'm not sure if this is really the best option.

To me it looks like `stock.production.lot` is more about tractability of
instance of generic products **after** they have been sold, since
`stock.production.lot`  is very tightly tied to stock operations.

We need to have product instances already during the whole CRM, Quote,
SaleOrder process. I don’t see how to easily put `stock.production.lot`
on `sale.order.lines`.

The other option would be just going for `product.product` and assume
product == product instance.

I’m not really sure about benefits/drawbacks or maybe other/better
approaches.


Please give me your opinions about what model is best to use as a base
for selling unique items in odoo.

Thanks. Regards, Peter

by Pete Hahn - 03:36 - 21 Aug 2020

Re: The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Awesome guys. I will be in touch in the coming weeks as we get things finalised.

Thank you.

Rebecca

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 1:07 AM Manish Mannan <manish@o2b.co.in> wrote:

Hi Rebecca, I can also help, please let me know.

Regards,
Manish Mannan

On Thu, 20 Aug, 2020, 6:02 pm Gonzalo Ruzafa, <gr@adhoc.com.ar> wrote:
Let me know if we can help Rebecca!

Regards
Gonzalo

El mié., 19 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 23:12, Rebecca Gellatly (rebecca@o4sb.com) escribió:
Hello OCA Contributors,

We are in the process of gearing up for OCA Days 2020 Online (15th and 16th October) and need your help.

We are looking for a few people to be "hosts" on our conferencing platform to help with continuity between presentations and the like.
If you feel this is something you could help with please get in touch on this list or at events AT odoo-community.org

We are also looking for people to help be part of our Virtual Booth at the Odoo Experience -
4 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Wednesday Sept 30th and 3:30 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Thursday Oct 1st.
Again, we would love to hear from you in regards to helping out with this.

You may have seen we put out a survey a while back asking people what they wanted to know about for the OCA Days to help in training and learning, one of the main themes that has come back is the process and workflows of contributing to the OCA. If you feel this is an area you could help in presenting please contact us.

We are still looking for more talks, presentations, trainings/tutorials for the OCA Days if you haven't had a chance to send through your proposal for consideration yet please do so on the website.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rebecca

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by Rebecca Gellatly - 06:50 - 21 Aug 2020

Re: The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Hi Rebecca,

I can help too.

Best regards

Mileo

De: "Manish Mannan" <manish@o2b.co.in>
Para: "Odoo Community Association, (OCA) Contributors" <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2020 10:07:02
Assunto: Re: The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Hi Rebecca, I can also help, please let me know.

Regards,

Manish Mannan

On Thu, 20 Aug, 2020, 6:02 pm Gonzalo Ruzafa, <gr@adhoc.com.ar> wrote:

Let me know if we can help Rebecca!
Regards
Gonzalo

El mié., 19 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 23:12, Rebecca Gellatly (rebecca@o4sb.com) escribió:
Hello OCA Contributors,

We are in the process of gearing up for OCA Days 2020 Online (15th and 16th October) and need your help.

We are looking for a few people to be "hosts" on our conferencing platform to help with continuity between presentations and the like.
If you feel this is something you could help with please get in touch on this list or at events AT odoo-community.org

We are also looking for people to help be part of our Virtual Booth at the Odoo Experience -
4 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Wednesday Sept 30th and 3:30 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Thursday Oct 1st.
Again, we would love to hear from you in regards to helping out with this.

You may have seen we put out a survey a while back asking people what they wanted to know about for the OCA Days to help in training and learning, one of the main themes that has come back is the process and workflows of contributing to the OCA. If you feel this is an area you could help in presenting please contact us.

We are still looking for more talks, presentations, trainings/tutorials for the OCA Days if you haven't had a chance to send through your proposal for consideration yet please do so on the website.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rebecca
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by Luis F Miléo - 04:46 - 20 Aug 2020

Re: The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Hi Rebecca, I can also help, please let me know.

Regards,

Manish Mannan

On Thu, 20 Aug, 2020, 6:02 pm Gonzalo Ruzafa, <gr@adhoc.com.ar> wrote:

Let me know if we can help Rebecca!

Regards
Gonzalo

El mié., 19 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 23:12, Rebecca Gellatly (rebecca@o4sb.com) escribió:
Hello OCA Contributors,

We are in the process of gearing up for OCA Days 2020 Online (15th and 16th October) and need your help.

We are looking for a few people to be "hosts" on our conferencing platform to help with continuity between presentations and the like.
If you feel this is something you could help with please get in touch on this list or at events AT odoo-community.org

We are also looking for people to help be part of our Virtual Booth at the Odoo Experience -
4 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Wednesday Sept 30th and 3:30 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Thursday Oct 1st.
Again, we would love to hear from you in regards to helping out with this.

You may have seen we put out a survey a while back asking people what they wanted to know about for the OCA Days to help in training and learning, one of the main themes that has come back is the process and workflows of contributing to the OCA. If you feel this is an area you could help in presenting please contact us.

We are still looking for more talks, presentations, trainings/tutorials for the OCA Days if you haven't had a chance to send through your proposal for consideration yet please do so on the website.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rebecca

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by Manish Mannan - 03:05 - 20 Aug 2020

Re: The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Let me know if we can help Rebecca!

Regards

Gonzalo

El mié., 19 de ago. de 2020 a la(s) 23:12, Rebecca Gellatly (rebecca@o4sb.com) escribió:

Hello OCA Contributors,

We are in the process of gearing up for OCA Days 2020 Online (15th and 16th October) and need your help.

We are looking for a few people to be "hosts" on our conferencing platform to help with continuity between presentations and the like.
If you feel this is something you could help with please get in touch on this list or at events AT odoo-community.org

We are also looking for people to help be part of our Virtual Booth at the Odoo Experience -
4 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Wednesday Sept 30th and 3:30 pm to 10 pm (CEST) on Thursday Oct 1st.
Again, we would love to hear from you in regards to helping out with this.

You may have seen we put out a survey a while back asking people what they wanted to know about for the OCA Days to help in training and learning, one of the main themes that has come back is the process and workflows of contributing to the OCA. If you feel this is an area you could help in presenting please contact us.

We are still looking for more talks, presentations, trainings/tutorials for the OCA Days if you haven't had a chance to send through your proposal for consideration yet please do so on the website.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rebecca

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by Gonzalo Ruzafa. - 02:31 - 20 Aug 2020

Re: huge amount of: raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")

Hi,

I'm not using docker containers but when I find "bus.bus unavailable" error, the solution pointed out in https://odoo-development.readthedocs.io/en/latest/debugging/errors/exception-bus-bus-unavailable.html solves it; hope this works for you too!

Thanks,

Simone Rubino

On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 18:22, robert@redo2oo.ch <robert@redo2oo.ch> wrote:

Hi there

I am running odoo in a docker container behingd an nginx http-server
now I get millions of exception in the log that the bus is not available.
I realy would like to find a solution for this, as this renders the log 
unusable.

in the odoo config I declare the longpolling port to be 8072:

longpolling_port = 8072

in the container I map port 8072 to 19100

             "Ports": {
                 "8069/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "9100"
                     }
                 ],
                 "8072/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "19100"
                     }
                 ]
             },


the NGINX  conf:

#
# client_x
# -------------------
# _robert_

#odoo server
upstream odoo_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:9100;
}
upstream odoochat_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:19100;
}
# start with http server, certbot will add https
server {
   server_name   13.client.ch;
   access_log    /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.access.log combined;
   error_log     /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.error.log;
   location / {
     proxy_pass http://odoo_client_x;
   }

     listen [::]:443 ssl ipv6only=on; # managed by Certbot
     listen 443 ssl; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/fullchain.pem; 
# managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate_key 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/privkey.pem; # managed by Certbot
     include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-nginx.conf; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/ssl-dhparams.pem; # managed by Certbot

}
server {
     if ($host = 13.client_x.ch) {
         return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
     } # managed by Certbot
   listen 80;
   listen [::]:80;
   server_name   13.client_x.ch;
     return 404; # managed by Certbot
}

thanks for any help
robert


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 624, in _handle_exception
     return super(JsonRequest, self)._handle_exception(exception)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 310, in _handle_exception
     raise pycompat.reraise(type(exception), exception, sys.exc_info()[2])
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/tools/pycompat.py", line 14, in reraise
     raise value
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 669, in dispatch
     result = self._call_function(**self.params)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 350, in _call_function
     return checked_call(self.db, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/service/model.py", line 94, in wrapper
     return f(dbname, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 339, in checked_call
     result = self.endpoint(*a, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 915, in __call__
     return self.method(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 515, in response_wrap
     response = f(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/addons/bus/controllers/main.py", line 35, in poll
     raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")
Exception: bus.Bus unavailable
2020-08-19 15:24:18,405 71 INFO client_x werkzeug: 172.17.0.1 - - 
[19/Aug/2020 15:24:18] "POST /longpolling/poll HTTP/1.0" 200 - 1 0.000 0.004

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by Simone Rubino - 09:20 - 20 Aug 2020

Account Asset Management - calculate amount asset remove

Hello all,

I'm not sure that we calculate the amount depreciation line wrong.

Example

Asset start date 01 Aug 2020

We will remove asset at 31 Aug 2020

Depreciation board will create a new line early removal is 30 Aug 2020

that line should calculate depreciation 30 days but in code calculate 29 days.

is it correct? or am I missing something?

In the code

function _prepare_early_removal() in file ./account_asset_management/wizard/account_asset_remove.py

to_depreciate_amount = round(
float(to_depreciate_days)
/ float(period_number_days)
* first_to_depreciate_dl.amount,
digits,
)

to_depreciate_days = 29 (should be 30 ?)

period_number_days = 30 (should be 31 ?)

Thank you. Regards

by saranl - 05:36 - 20 Aug 2020

The OCA needs your help - OCA Days 2020 and Odoo XP

Hello OCA Contributors,

We are in the process of gearing up for OCA Days 2020 Online (15th and 16th October) and need your help.

We are looking for a few people to be "hosts" on our conferencing platform to help with continuity between presentations and the like.

If you feel this is something you could help with please get in touch on this list or at events AT odoo-community.org

We are also looking for people to help be part of our Virtual Booth at the Odoo Experience -

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Again, we would love to hear from you in regards to helping out with this.

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Re: solved: Re: huge amount of: raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")

Pretty quick fix it seems. Kudos there Robert.

Landis Arnold

Nomadic Inc.

Longmont, CO USA

From: robert@redo2oo.ch
To: "Odoo Community Association, (OCA) Contributors" <contributors@odoo-community.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 10:57:37 AM
Subject: solved: Re: huge amount of: raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")

I found the reason:

I did not really use the long polling "nginx-server".

Maybe the lets encript setup process removed that part. ??

What I did, I added:

    # Redirect longpoll requests to odoo longpolling port
    location /longpolling {
        proxy_pass http://odoochat_client_x;
    }

thanks for listening

robert

On 19.08.20 18:22, robert@redo2oo.ch wrote:

Hi there

I am running odoo in a docker container behingd an nginx http-server
now I get millions of exception in the log that the bus is not available.
I realy would like to find a solution for this, as this renders the log 
unusable.

in the odoo config I declare the longpolling port to be 8072:

longpolling_port = 8072

in the container I map port 8072 to 19100

             "Ports": {
                 "8069/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "9100"
                     }
                 ],
                 "8072/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "19100"
                     }
                 ]
             },


the NGINX  conf:

#
# client_x
# -------------------
# _robert_

#odoo server
upstream odoo_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:9100;
}
upstream odoochat_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:19100;
}
# start with http server, certbot will add https
server {
   server_name   13.client.ch;
   access_log    /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.access.log combined;
   error_log     /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.error.log;
   location / {
     proxy_pass http://odoo_client_x;
   }

     listen [::]:443 ssl ipv6only=on; # managed by Certbot
     listen 443 ssl; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/fullchain.pem; 
# managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate_key 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/privkey.pem; # managed by Certbot
     include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-nginx.conf; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/ssl-dhparams.pem; # managed by Certbot

}
server {
     if ($host = 13.client_x.ch) {
         return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
     } # managed by Certbot
   listen 80;
   listen [::]:80;
   server_name   13.client_x.ch;
     return 404; # managed by Certbot
}

thanks for any help
robert


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 624, in _handle_exception
     return super(JsonRequest, self)._handle_exception(exception)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 310, in _handle_exception
     raise pycompat.reraise(type(exception), exception, sys.exc_info()[2])
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/tools/pycompat.py", line 14, in reraise
     raise value
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 669, in dispatch
     result = self._call_function(**self.params)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 350, in _call_function
     return checked_call(self.db, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/service/model.py", line 94, in wrapper
     return f(dbname, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 339, in checked_call
     result = self.endpoint(*a, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 915, in __call__
     return self.method(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 515, in response_wrap
     response = f(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/addons/bus/controllers/main.py", line 35, in poll
     raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")
Exception: bus.Bus unavailable
2020-08-19 15:24:18,405 71 INFO client_x werkzeug: 172.17.0.1 - - 
[19/Aug/2020 15:24:18] "POST /longpolling/poll HTTP/1.0" 200 - 1 0.000 0.004

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by Landis Arnold - 09:30 - 19 Aug 2020

solved: Re: huge amount of: raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")

I found the reason:

I did not really use the long polling "nginx-server".

Maybe the lets encript setup process removed that part. ??

What I did, I added:

    # Redirect longpoll requests to odoo longpolling port
    location /longpolling {
        proxy_pass http://odoochat_client_x;
    }

thanks for listening

robert

On 19.08.20 18:22, robert@redo2oo.ch wrote:

Hi there

I am running odoo in a docker container behingd an nginx http-server
now I get millions of exception in the log that the bus is not available.
I realy would like to find a solution for this, as this renders the log 
unusable.

in the odoo config I declare the longpolling port to be 8072:

longpolling_port = 8072

in the container I map port 8072 to 19100

             "Ports": {
                 "8069/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "9100"
                     }
                 ],
                 "8072/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "19100"
                     }
                 ]
             },


the NGINX  conf:

#
# client_x
# -------------------
# _robert_

#odoo server
upstream odoo_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:9100;
}
upstream odoochat_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:19100;
}
# start with http server, certbot will add https
server {
   server_name   13.client.ch;
   access_log    /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.access.log combined;
   error_log     /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.error.log;
   location / {
     proxy_pass http://odoo_client_x;
   }

     listen [::]:443 ssl ipv6only=on; # managed by Certbot
     listen 443 ssl; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/fullchain.pem; 
# managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate_key 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/privkey.pem; # managed by Certbot
     include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-nginx.conf; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/ssl-dhparams.pem; # managed by Certbot

}
server {
     if ($host = 13.client_x.ch) {
         return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
     } # managed by Certbot
   listen 80;
   listen [::]:80;
   server_name   13.client_x.ch;
     return 404; # managed by Certbot
}

thanks for any help
robert


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 624, in _handle_exception
     return super(JsonRequest, self)._handle_exception(exception)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 310, in _handle_exception
     raise pycompat.reraise(type(exception), exception, sys.exc_info()[2])
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/tools/pycompat.py", line 14, in reraise
     raise value
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 669, in dispatch
     result = self._call_function(**self.params)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 350, in _call_function
     return checked_call(self.db, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/service/model.py", line 94, in wrapper
     return f(dbname, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 339, in checked_call
     result = self.endpoint(*a, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 915, in __call__
     return self.method(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 515, in response_wrap
     response = f(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/addons/bus/controllers/main.py", line 35, in poll
     raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")
Exception: bus.Bus unavailable
2020-08-19 15:24:18,405 71 INFO client_x werkzeug: 172.17.0.1 - - 
[19/Aug/2020 15:24:18] "POST /longpolling/poll HTTP/1.0" 200 - 1 0.000 0.004

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by robert - 06:56 - 19 Aug 2020

huge amount of: raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")

Hi there

I am running odoo in a docker container behingd an nginx http-server
now I get millions of exception in the log that the bus is not available.
I realy would like to find a solution for this, as this renders the log 
unusable.

in the odoo config I declare the longpolling port to be 8072:

longpolling_port = 8072

in the container I map port 8072 to 19100

             "Ports": {
                 "8069/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "9100"
                     }
                 ],
                 "8072/tcp": [
                     {
                         "HostIp": "127.0.0.1",
                         "HostPort": "19100"
                     }
                 ]
             },


the NGINX  conf:

#
# client_x
# -------------------
# _robert_

#odoo server
upstream odoo_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:9100;
}
upstream odoochat_client_x {
     server 127.0.0.1:19100;
}
# start with http server, certbot will add https
server {
   server_name   13.client.ch;
   access_log    /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.access.log combined;
   error_log     /var/log/nginx/13.client_x.ch.error.log;
   location / {
     proxy_pass http://odoo_client_x;
   }

     listen [::]:443 ssl ipv6only=on; # managed by Certbot
     listen 443 ssl; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/fullchain.pem; 
# managed by Certbot
     ssl_certificate_key 
/etc/letsencrypt/live/13.client_x.ch/privkey.pem; # managed by Certbot
     include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-nginx.conf; # managed by Certbot
     ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/ssl-dhparams.pem; # managed by Certbot

}
server {
     if ($host = 13.client_x.ch) {
         return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
     } # managed by Certbot
   listen 80;
   listen [::]:80;
   server_name   13.client_x.ch;
     return 404; # managed by Certbot
}

thanks for any help
robert


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 624, in _handle_exception
     return super(JsonRequest, self)._handle_exception(exception)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 310, in _handle_exception
     raise pycompat.reraise(type(exception), exception, sys.exc_info()[2])
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/tools/pycompat.py", line 14, in reraise
     raise value
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 669, in dispatch
     result = self._call_function(**self.params)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 350, in _call_function
     return checked_call(self.db, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/service/model.py", line 94, in wrapper
     return f(dbname, *args, **kwargs)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 339, in checked_call
     result = self.endpoint(*a, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 915, in __call__
     return self.method(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/odoo/http.py", line 515, in response_wrap
     response = f(*args, **kw)
   File "/odoo/src/addons/bus/controllers/main.py", line 35, in poll
     raise Exception("bus.Bus unavailable")
Exception: bus.Bus unavailable
2020-08-19 15:24:18,405 71 INFO client_x werkzeug: 172.17.0.1 - - 
[19/Aug/2020 15:24:18] "POST /longpolling/poll HTTP/1.0" 200 - 1 0.000 0.004

by robert - 06:20 - 19 Aug 2020

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