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Re: Account financial reserve naming
That's not exactly the same purpose (we use both in our project).I think for v14, we can base our thinking on the new voucher module in that flow (I will do soon a PR with a wallet-voucher or sth similar).A migration PR for sale_promotion_rule is currently draft there. IMHO, we need to split the coupon flow accordingly too.On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:07 AM Raphaël Reverdy <raphael.reverdy@akretion.com> wrote:Hi,We addressed a similar need with (oca/sale_workflow) sale_promotion_rule.The "deposit" is simply a voucher. It can be splitted (partial use in a SO), increased, and expiration can be set.Ok for account-wallet , may be move sale_promotion_rule there?Regards,Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 17:27, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> a écrit :+1 account-wallet
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Il 12/05/21 17:11, Bruno Joliveau ha scritto:
+1 for account-wallet
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Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 11:06, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :
Hi all,
I'm requesting the creation of a new repository named account-wallet.
I hope this will help to fulfill people request. I will add PR's for 14 soon.
I think we can add it to accounting-maintainers PSC.
Thanks all for the little brainstorming.
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Yes.
I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).
Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?
Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :
wallet is an interesting name too.
I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?
-sbi
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:
May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
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Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
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On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
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by Denis Roussel - 10:16 - 17 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Hi,We addressed a similar need with (oca/sale_workflow) sale_promotion_rule.The "deposit" is simply a voucher. It can be splitted (partial use in a SO), increased, and expiration can be set.Ok for account-wallet , may be move sale_promotion_rule there?Regards,Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 17:27, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> a écrit :+1 account-wallet
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Il 12/05/21 17:11, Bruno Joliveau ha scritto:
+1 for account-wallet
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Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 11:06, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :
Hi all,
I'm requesting the creation of a new repository named account-wallet.
I hope this will help to fulfill people request. I will add PR's for 14 soon.
I think we can add it to accounting-maintainers PSC.
Thanks all for the little brainstorming.
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Yes.
I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).
Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?
Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :
wallet is an interesting name too.
I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?
-sbi
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:
May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
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by Raphaël Reverdy - 10:06 - 17 May 2021 -
Re: Manufacturing Order reporting
Hi David,The need is for a specific report of a single product manufactured (it has a relevant value), but I'll keep that in mind, thanks!Sergio CoratoIl giorno lun 17 mag 2021 alle ore 08:57 David Beal <david.beal@akretion.com> ha scritto:Hi Sergio,A really partial response here I think, but not finished.Maybe for inspiration ?"pivot table from product which make appears disparity between theoretical component consumption and real component consumption" RegardsLe ven. 14 mai 2021 à 15:42, Sergio Corato <sergiocorato@gmail.com> a écrit :Hi Harald,thanks!Sergio CoratoIl giorno ven 14 mag 2021 alle ore 12:52 Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:I don't remeber any report with such kind of details.I think that your PR should be in https://github.com/OCA/manufacture-reportingEl vie, 14 may 2021 a las 12:32, Sergio Corato (<sergiocorato@gmail.com>) escribió:Hi all,is there a module with a report to show the cost of a manufactured product, with cost of components at the time of production and worked times and deviations from BOM?If not, which OCA repository could I do a PR?ThanksSergio Corato_______________________________________________
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Re: Manufacturing Order reporting
Hi Sergio,A really partial response here I think, but not finished.Maybe for inspiration ?"pivot table from product which make appears disparity between theoretical component consumption and real component consumption" RegardsLe ven. 14 mai 2021 à 15:42, Sergio Corato <sergiocorato@gmail.com> a écrit :Hi Harald,thanks!Sergio CoratoIl giorno ven 14 mag 2021 alle ore 12:52 Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:I don't remeber any report with such kind of details.I think that your PR should be in https://github.com/OCA/manufacture-reportingEl vie, 14 may 2021 a las 12:32, Sergio Corato (<sergiocorato@gmail.com>) escribió:Hi all,is there a module with a report to show the cost of a manufactured product, with cost of components at the time of production and worked times and deviations from BOM?If not, which OCA repository could I do a PR?ThanksSergio Corato_______________________________________________
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by David BEAL - 08:55 - 17 May 2021 -
Re: 30 Checkout Operations per Minute A job for Odoo or not ?
El jue, 6 may 2021 a las 5:02, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:Hi Moises, Am Freitag, den 30.04.2021, 16:02 +0000 schrieb Moises Lopez: > Hi Frederik > > A customer requested to support 5k concurrent sale.order (1 or 2 > lines of products) in Odoo. > The process that we followed were: test, measure, fix, test... haha, yes thats what works well if you have a customer that well endorses this "agile" and "pivoting" style of work. Apart from all economic considerations this is probably also something that isolated leads to quite solid solutions
Well, we are talking about 5k concurrent VUs in this special case.The cost vs benefit demands this.> > The first time that we tested the checkout process supported 15 > concurrent virtual users (VUs) > The measure said that it had heavy custom functions in the same > transaction of checkout but it could be executed in background (cron, > queue) > and there were slow queries because of indexes issues or too many > queries executed because of python code did you use any specific profiling tools here? Or the ones that rcollet often proposes in his talks about the matter ?
Watch my talk in SFOI used the same tools> > Note: Be careful with the base_automation if you can migrate them to > code it is better. Thanks for the hint, i think we experienced that also quite some times in the past and learned that lesson already ;-) > > After fix them the next iteration supported 400 VUs > So good but so far from the focus. > > The next iteration we found that there were methods that could be > using LRU-cache (e.g. prices, website that don't change) > Now we needed to check where the cache was clearing too frequently > and fix it. How did you measure LRU cache hit rates vs. code parts in a good way. Any tooling suggestion here ?
For the case of the price in the website our reasoning was:- The value don't change in a long time for this customer (each 6 months)- It couldn't be a stored field in the database because it depends on:- date- quantity- currency rate (if your have multi-currency)- partner- Supplier price (if your price depends on it)- product category- Adding LRU-Cache with these keys will work fine and fasterEven the website the most of request came from public userI share you the output of the following command in production:- kill -SIGUSR1 WORKER-PIDIt shows the hit rates:- 19715 hit 91.5% ratio for website._get_cached_values- 3507 hit 75.8% ratio for website.get_pricelist_available_cached> > We implemented CDN > e.g. The sentence "/web/image/company.logo" runs 10 queries > (prefetching fields, translating fields...) for each user opening the > page > After using CDN 0 queries are executed. But you just used Odoos standard CDN function or any specific measure here ?
> > We removed soft process that running with many users it is heavy > e.g. the random image that odoo assign when you create a res.partner > e.g. computed fields moved to cron Also here which analysis tools do you prefer to do so ? > > After that we detected concurrent update issues > It is hell for performance matter. > e.g. updating the same record at the same time from many users, > e.g. allowing pressing the same button too many times > e.g. sequences using no-gap in the main process, and so on > > After finishing all the hints of performance issues in the code and > database the next steps were to improve the hardware. > > Now, It supports 5k concurrent VUs doing checkout process (choose 2 > products, type address, payment card info and confirm) In what time frame ? > > So, Odoo will support those users but you will need to test, measure, > fix, test... > Stress testing tools helps us a lot here > python profilers and query analyzers too > > Maybe you are interest to watch our talk in SFO about: > - https://youtu.be/kiREZqg3JQg I will definitely have a look at this Thanks a lot for your extensive insight. Cheers from rainy Germany to sunny Mexico ;-) Frederik > > El mié, 28 abr 2021 a las 15:35, Frederik Kramer (< > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió: > > Hi Folks, > > > > i have a project proposal on my desk that will ultimately end up in > > approx. 30 checkout transactions per minute. Has anybody got a > > project > > with that order volume done with a relatively recent version of > > Odoo > > and provide a good reference. Please bear in mind that the project > > ahead involves a similarly high volume of stock moves. > > > > Any suggestion / comment like (but not limited to) > > > > Odoo is the wrong technology for that, forget it, because.... > > > > over > > > > You can do it but, a), b), c) .... > > > > to > > > > If you really want that beast flying involve us over here because > > we > > are among the few ones that already did soemthing similar > > > > would be appreciated. > > > > From our load intensive projects at initOS i know that 10000 orders > > a > > day can be handled but almost 50000 is a different story and thats > > why > > i am asking the most experienced resource out there ;-) > > > > Thanks in advance for your replay > > > > Cheers Frederik > > > > > > -- > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer > > Geschäftsführer > > > > initOS GmbH > > An der Eisenbahn 1 > > 21224 Rosengarten > > > > Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 > > Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 > > Mobil: +49 179 3901819 > > > > Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com > > Web: www.initos.com > > > > Geschäftsführung: > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke > > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken > > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 > > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
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by Moisés López Calderón - 05:21 - 14 May 2021 -
Re: Manufacturing Order reporting
Hi Harald,thanks!Sergio CoratoIl giorno ven 14 mag 2021 alle ore 12:52 Harald Panten Lopez <harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto:I don't remeber any report with such kind of details.I think that your PR should be in https://github.com/OCA/manufacture-reportingEl vie, 14 may 2021 a las 12:32, Sergio Corato (<sergiocorato@gmail.com>) escribió:Hi all,is there a module with a report to show the cost of a manufactured product, with cost of components at the time of production and worked times and deviations from BOM?If not, which OCA repository could I do a PR?ThanksSergio Corato
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by Sergio Corato - 03:40 - 14 May 2021 -
Re: Manufacturing Order reporting
I don't remeber any report with such kind of details.I think that your PR should be in https://github.com/OCA/manufacture-reportingEl vie, 14 may 2021 a las 12:32, Sergio Corato (<sergiocorato@gmail.com>) escribió:Hi all,is there a module with a report to show the cost of a manufactured product, with cost of components at the time of production and worked times and deviations from BOM?If not, which OCA repository could I do a PR?ThanksSergio Corato_______________________________________________
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by Harald Panten Lopez - 12:50 - 14 May 2021 -
Manufacturing Order reporting
Hi all,is there a module with a report to show the cost of a manufactured product, with cost of components at the time of production and worked times and deviations from BOM?If not, which OCA repository could I do a PR?ThanksSergio Corato
by Sergio Corato - 12:31 - 14 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
+1 account-wallet
Antonio M. Vigliotti
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Il 12/05/21 17:11, Bruno Joliveau ha scritto:
+1 for account-wallet
Bruno Joliveau - PrésidentNUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.
(514) 317-7944
Longueuil, Québec, Canada
Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 11:06, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :
Hi all,
I'm requesting the creation of a new repository named account-wallet.
I hope this will help to fulfill people request. I will add PR's for 14 soon.
I think we can add it to accounting-maintainers PSC.
Thanks all for the little brainstorming.
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Yes.
I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).
Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?
Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :
wallet is an interesting name too.
I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?
-sbi
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:
May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
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by Antonio M. Vigliotti - 05:26 - 12 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
+1 for account-walletBruno Joliveau - PrésidentNUMIGI SOLUTIONS INC.(514) 317-7944Longueuil, Québec, Canada
Le mer. 12 mai 2021 à 11:06, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :Hi all,I'm requesting the creation of a new repository named account-wallet.I hope this will help to fulfill people request. I will add PR's for 14 soon.I think we can add it to accounting-maintainers PSC.Thanks all for the little brainstorming.On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:Yes.I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :wallet is an interesting name too.I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?-sbiOn Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
__________________________________________
Denis Roussel
Software Engineer
Acsone SA, Succursale de Liège (Val Benoît)
Tel : +32 2 888 31 49
Fax : +32 2 888 31 59
Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nv
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by Bruno Joliveau - 05:10 - 12 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Hi all,I'm requesting the creation of a new repository named account-wallet.I hope this will help to fulfill people request. I will add PR's for 14 soon.I think we can add it to accounting-maintainers PSC.Thanks all for the little brainstorming.On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:45 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:Yes.I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :wallet is an interesting name too.I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?-sbiOn Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
__________________________________________
Denis Roussel
Software Engineer
Acsone SA, Succursale de Liège (Val Benoît)
Tel : +32 2 888 31 49
Fax : +32 2 888 31 59
Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nv
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by Denis Roussel - 05:05 - 12 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Yes.I think that will not conflict with future Odoo sale gift card (but they change their mind meantime).Maybe account-wallet (for repo)?Le mar. 11 mai 2021 à 14:31, Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> a écrit :wallet is an interesting name too.I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?-sbiOn Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
__________________________________________
Denis Roussel
Software Engineer
Acsone SA, Succursale de Liège (Val Benoît)
Tel : +32 2 888 31 49
Fax : +32 2 888 31 59
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by Denis Roussel - 02:45 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
+1 for wallet--Yves Goldbergodoo| Official Partner - OCA delegateOpen Source ERP, CRM & CMST +972 (3) 720 8818
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------- Original message -----From: "Stéphane Bidoul" <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu>To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>Subject: Re: Account financial reserve namingDate: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 15:31wallet is an interesting name too.I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?-sbiOn Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.Antonio M. VigliottiMobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:I like it.One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi,Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):- funds (cagnottes) are created- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is dueBest regards,--On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________Fax : +32 2 888 31 59Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nvBoulevard de la Woluwe 56 Woluwedal | B-1200 Brussels | BelgiumQuai Banning, 6 (Val Benoît) | B-4000 Liège | BelgiumZone Industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe--__________________________________________Fax : +32 2 888 31 59Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nvBoulevard de la Woluwe 56 Woluwedal | B-1200 Brussels | BelgiumQuai Banning, 6 (Val Benoît) | B-4000 Liège | BelgiumZone Industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
by Yves Goldberg - 02:41 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
wallet is an interesting name too.I guess it's best to create a new repo, since this is a suite of modules covering several areas ?-sbiOn Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:16 PM Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) <antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com> wrote:May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
Antonio M. Vigliotti
Mobile (+39) 342.8740910
Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
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Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
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by Stéphane Bidoul - 02:30 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
May be intresting for other countries, if I understand the request.
The financial reserve is a sort of payment down but not specific for any order.
In Italy is called "anticipo" (like payment down but it is not the same meaning) or portafoglio (Italian term for "wallet"). The account should be a <credit account type>.
We have to develop a module with this feature, can we share the thinks ena eventually the code, if you agred.
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Il 11/05/21 13:37, Roussel, Denis ha scritto:
I like it.
One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).
Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?
In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):
- funds (cagnottes) are created
- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id
- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means
- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is due
Best regards,
--
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.
We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.
These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).
If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.
Regards,
--
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by Antonio M. Vigliotti - 02:15 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
I like it.One thing more is the fact that that fund can be partner agnostic. As it can represent a 'gift voucher' which has a certain balance corresponding to the voucher value (if not used yet).Apart of that consideration, is it a good idea to create a repo for those modules or to go in an existing one ?On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi,Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):- funds (cagnottes) are created- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is dueBest regards,--On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________
Denis Roussel
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Tel : +32 2 888 31 49
Fax : +32 2 888 31 59
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by Denis Roussel - 01:35 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Hi,Maybe a good name would be account_partner_fund ?In a nutshell, we have the following concepts in these modules (as I understand it after a quick reminder from Cedric, errors and imprecisions are mine, but the general idea should be this):- funds (cagnottes) are created- a balance sheet account is used to track the funds, with all journal items in this account having a m2o to the corresponding fund + partner_id- funds can be credited with balance sheet movements (bank to fund, no VAT impact)- funds can be used as payment means- when funds expire, there is a debit fund / credit revenue, and at that moment some VAT is dueBest regards,--On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 6:37 PM Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________
Denis Roussel
Software Engineer
Acsone SA, Succursale de Liège (Val Benoît)
Tel : +32 2 888 31 49
Fax : +32 2 888 31 59
Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nv
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by Stéphane Bidoul - 11:00 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Hi DenisWe just do that workflow with a small customization for invoice that is not worthy to OCA ;-)Let me explain the workflow :- we enter a customer invoice with a type 'debours' that goes to a '467' account (product is setup to generate a 467 account move line (of course no VAT). The label 'Invoice' is changed to 'Debours' on the customer invoice- we enter an analytic account on the invoice line (ie. 'Avance de frais pour projet X')... because supplier invoices are entered with 467 account and same analytic account as well.... this is to balance the 467 accountSorry for the noice to not frenchies-belgies OCA members, please propose another channel to discuss that purpose... except if you think it's transposable to other countriesBest regardsLe lun. 10 mai 2021 à 22:02, Roussel, Denis <denis.roussel@acsone.eu> a écrit :Hi Cyril,In our case, we do the same as your flow (it generates account move with a 4.. account feed).So, if we can provide a tool that fits most of business usages, it's community benefit and avoid code duplicates.What do you think ?On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 9:52 AM Cyril VINH-TUNG <cyril@invitu.com> wrote:Dear YvesWe manage that use case by doing an invoice with general account '467' (French account chart)... and change the invoice label to 'what the accountants need'Then we use analytic accounting to balance the accounts.Feel free to send me a private message as 'french uses cases' are not meant to be discussed on this listBest regardsLe lun. 10 mai 2021 à 19:12, Yves Goldberg <yves@ygol.com> a écrit :Hi Denis,I am working currently on a feature and wonder if it is not similar to your thread.There is in France a "régime de débours" where you collect funds from a party and later repay exactly the same amount (to a third party).Those "reserve" or "débours" are not entering in a P&L account and are not part of the turnover.So I am looking to use an invoice that will register the movement in a different journal than a sale journal.Is this similar to the "cagnotte" concept?Do you have a github repo to have a peek at your code?Best.--Yves Goldberg------- Original message -----From: "Roussel, Denis" <denis.roussel@acsone.eu>To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>Subject: Account financial reserve namingDate: Monday, May 10, 2021 19:37Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________Fax : +32 2 888 31 59Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nvBoulevard de la Woluwe 56 Woluwedal | B-1200 Brussels | BelgiumQuai Banning, 6 (Val Benoît) | B-4000 Liège | BelgiumZone Industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe_______________________________________________
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by Cyril VINH-TUNG - 10:30 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Hi Cyril,In our case, we do the same as your flow (it generates account move with a 4.. account feed).So, if we can provide a tool that fits most of business usages, it's community benefit and avoid code duplicates.What do you think ?On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 9:52 AM Cyril VINH-TUNG <cyril@invitu.com> wrote:Dear YvesWe manage that use case by doing an invoice with general account '467' (French account chart)... and change the invoice label to 'what the accountants need'Then we use analytic accounting to balance the accounts.Feel free to send me a private message as 'french uses cases' are not meant to be discussed on this listBest regardsLe lun. 10 mai 2021 à 19:12, Yves Goldberg <yves@ygol.com> a écrit :Hi Denis,I am working currently on a feature and wonder if it is not similar to your thread.There is in France a "régime de débours" where you collect funds from a party and later repay exactly the same amount (to a third party).Those "reserve" or "débours" are not entering in a P&L account and are not part of the turnover.So I am looking to use an invoice that will register the movement in a different journal than a sale journal.Is this similar to the "cagnotte" concept?Do you have a github repo to have a peek at your code?Best.--Yves Goldberg------- Original message -----From: "Roussel, Denis" <denis.roussel@acsone.eu>To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>Subject: Account financial reserve namingDate: Monday, May 10, 2021 19:37Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________Fax : +32 2 888 31 59Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nvBoulevard de la Woluwe 56 Woluwedal | B-1200 Brussels | BelgiumQuai Banning, 6 (Val Benoît) | B-4000 Liège | BelgiumZone Industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
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by Denis Roussel - 10:00 - 11 May 2021 -
Re: Account financial reserve naming
Dear YvesWe manage that use case by doing an invoice with general account '467' (French account chart)... and change the invoice label to 'what the accountants need'Then we use analytic accounting to balance the accounts.Feel free to send me a private message as 'french uses cases' are not meant to be discussed on this listBest regardsLe lun. 10 mai 2021 à 19:12, Yves Goldberg <yves@ygol.com> a écrit :Hi Denis,I am working currently on a feature and wonder if it is not similar to your thread.There is in France a "régime de débours" where you collect funds from a party and later repay exactly the same amount (to a third party).Those "reserve" or "débours" are not entering in a P&L account and are not part of the turnover.So I am looking to use an invoice that will register the movement in a different journal than a sale journal.Is this similar to the "cagnotte" concept?Do you have a github repo to have a peek at your code?Best.--Yves Goldberg------- Original message -----From: "Roussel, Denis" <denis.roussel@acsone.eu>To: Contributors <contributors@odoo-community.org>Subject: Account financial reserve namingDate: Monday, May 10, 2021 19:37Hi all,We want to put some modules we did to OCA, but before we want to validate naming with some native english speakers as some translations are ambiguous.We want to modelize a financial reserve (we named it in French 'cagnotte' - that is translated at first sight jackpot or pot(the ambiguous one :-) ) through account moves that feed a waiting account.These entries should allow to pay invoices later (we know the 'wallet' in development on Odoo side but this is quite different as based on accounting entries).If we can have a little feedback from some of you on our future baby name.Regards,--__________________________________________Fax : +32 2 888 31 59Gsm : +32 472 22 00 57Acsone sa/nvBoulevard de la Woluwe 56 Woluwedal | B-1200 Brussels | BelgiumQuai Banning, 6 (Val Benoît) | B-4000 Liège | BelgiumZone Industrielle 22 | L-8287 Kehlen | Luxembourg_______________________________________________Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.orgUnsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
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by Cyril VINH-TUNG - 09:51 - 11 May 2021
