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Hi Community,
You can check the 3 modules that our team has been working in. They're still WIP but we'll keep working on them.
Regards.
El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 14:42, Antonio M. Vigliotti (gmail) (<antoniomaria.vigliotti@gmail.com>) escribió:
Where we can find the Discord channel, please?
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Il 11/06/21 12:22, Daniel Reis ha scritto:
Frederick, Monday 2 PM CET works for me.
Maria José is a certified accountant working with me, and she can join too.
Yo may want to share a meeting link, I could also do that if you prefer.
Harald, Discord is a good idea to keep the discussion flow.
An initial discussion call would still be useful.
Thanks
Daniel
On 11/06/2021 09:27, Harald Panten Lopez wrote:
If there's no objection, I think we could use the accounting channel in the Discord for chatting. This will make the conversation more dynamic and we wouldn't bother other contributors.
WDYT?
El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 16:52, Frederik Kramer (<frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió:
Hi folks, from our side my colleague Usama and I will collaborate on the matter. Maybe it'll be nice to organise a small call next week to nail down the scope of the generic part of the job. For instance i would suggest Monday afternoon at 2pm. CEST if that fits you all well. We could set up an host a small video call. Who would be interested ? Best Frederik Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 14:42 +0000 schrieb Daniel Reis: > Hello, thank you for bringing this up. > > I am available to collaborate. > > A basic thing to have is the full list of VAT rates and tax regions. > There are up to three tax levels - standard, reduced and super > reduced. > And for example, Portugal has three tax regions - Mainland, Madeira > and Azores. Spain also has something similar, and I'm sure it is not > the only country. > > I don't see a oca/l10n-europe repository. > Should we have one, or just use one of the existing accounting > relates repos, such as oca/account-fiscal-position ot oca/account- > invoicing? > > Thanks > Daniel > > On 10/06/2021 13:52, Sergio Corato wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was planning to use this module as a starting point: > > https://github.com/odoo/odoo/tree/14.0/addons/l10n_eu_service > > So the standard italian report will clearly identify VAT by > > country, the next step of sending data will be done by the advisor. > > The selection of the fiscal position is so automated by country, > > but not by B2C/B2B (little coding needed here). > > What planned implementation would do? > > Sergio Corato > > > > > > Il giorno gio 10 giu 2021 alle ore 13:02 Harald Panten Lopez < > > harald.panten@sygel.es> ha scritto: > > > Hi Frederik, thank you for your prompt reply. > > > > > > We were planning to divide the solutions in two steps. > > > > > > Step 1: Tax mapping, difference between B2B and B2C... As you > > > said, this can be general and common for all EU countries. > > > > > > Step 2: Country localization reporting according the Spanish VAT > > > laws. This one is going to be different. > > > > > > Did you publish any PR where we could contribute? Our idea was to > > > create a PR in fiscal-rule OCA repository. > > > > > > El jue, 10 jun 2021 a las 12:42, Frederik Kramer (< > > > frederik.kramer@initos.com>) escribió: > > > > Hi Harald, > > > > > > > > yes this is what we are currently working on as well. However > > > > even > > > > after studying most of the law baseline in Germany there are a > > > > couple > > > > of questions we need to discuss with our tax adivsory. > > > > > > > > For now it seems that pretty much everything concerning the per > > > > use > > > > case tax mapping (including country code selection base) and > > > > differentiation between B2B and B2C use cases can be done with > > > > configuration and little coding but as the OSS authority > > > > collecting the > > > > collected VAT is different in each member state and there seems > > > > to be > > > > NO common reporting standard format, for now we thing of > > > > creating a > > > > manual report that can than filled into the ELSTER portal (of > > > > he German > > > > authorities). > > > > > > > > Maybe we could jointly start a list of open issues that need to > > > > be > > > > solve european wide. > > > > > > > > BTW: We only adresse B2B and B2C use cases with delivery from > > > > member > > > > state (germany) to member state (EU-27) and without IOSS market > > > > place > > > > special requirement or drop shipping via Amazon Global > > > > fullfilment or > > > > alike > > > > > > > > Best Frederik > > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, den 10.06.2021, 10:27 +0000 schrieb Harald > > > > Panten Lopez: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Community, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly > > > > (1st of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > July) that will affect all EU countries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > More info: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any > > > > European > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > partner working on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is > > > > to "join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the > > > > ideology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proposed by OCA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harald Panten López > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CEO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sygel Technology S.L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +34 637 88 42 41 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > harald.panten@sygel.es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.sygel.es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mailing-List: > > > > https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer > > > > Geschäftsführer > > > > > > > > initOS GmbH > > > > An der Eisenbahn 1 > > > > 21224 Rosengarten > > > > > > > > Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 > > > > Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 > > > > Mobil: +49 179 3901819 > > > > > > > > Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com > > > > Web: www.initos.com > > > > > > > > Geschäftsführung: > > > > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. 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by Harald Panten Lopez - 03:16 - 14 Jun 2021
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European Union One-Stop-Shop
Hi Community,As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of July) that will affect all EU countries.More info:https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_enFor the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European partner working on this?Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology proposed by OCA.Regards,--
Harald Panten López
CEO
Sygel Technology S.L
+34 637 88 42 41 
harald.panten@sygel.es 
https://www.sygel.es 
C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
by Harald Panten Lopez - 12:26 - 10 Jun 2021-
Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
Hello all,
A quick update on this.
There was a great team effort on this feature, to develop, review and port across multiple Odoo versions.
The l10n_eu_oss module can be found at:
https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule
In the meanwhile, Odoo released their support for this.
It is an improvement to the l10n_eu_service module, available in Odoo CE.
There were later fixes, but the main implementation is here:
https://github.com/odoo/odoo/commit/d347eae1646639e2b346d404d1eb68ce9eac005c#diff-6299170bf4eb194cb23d4b799e0ce09b17a250b11e6eeb6aa3c58f63cea04c95
So there are two different solutions right now.
I started an Issue to discuss the differences.
Right now contributors feeling is that the OCA version probably does a better job.
You can check the details here:
https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule/issues/226
Have a nice day
Daniel
Às 11:27 de 10/06/21, Harald Panten Lopez escreveu:
Hi Community,
As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of July) that will affect all EU countries.
More info:https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en
For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European partner working on this?
Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology proposed by OCA.
Regards,--
Harald Panten López
CEO
Sygel Technology S.L
+34 637 88 42 41 harald.panten@sygel.es https://www.sygel.es C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
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by Daniel Reis - 05:51 - 6 Jul 2021 -
Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
Hi all, what you all makes absolute sense. In Germany we have the probably slightly different case that most SME still use Datev for their financial accounting, so looking at that specific thing its desireable to follow Datev' habit on creating accounts for specific accounting practices. Having said this meanwhile i checked the "German" Datev habit with regard to intra-trade and found out, that most probably we accumulate all but the domestic trades on 1! revenue account and 1! tax account. I'll wait final approval by the tax advisors but if that holds true, than yes certainly no reason to rework the design for more flexibility / complexity here. Best Frederik Am Montag, den 14.06.2021, 20:26 +0000 schrieb Valentin Vinagre Urteaga: > Hi Daniel, > As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much > more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to > implement and more versatile. > > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (< > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió: > > Hi Frederik, > > At first we also thought about being able to define which account > > to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take > > it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and > > then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be > > carried out with this functionality. > > > > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (< > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió: > > > The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I > > > discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the > > > `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed > > > things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and > > > restricting. > > > > > > Regards. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > > > > > > -- > > > > Valentín Vinagre Urteaga > > CTO > > Sygel Technology S.L > > > > +34 662 68 78 95 > > > > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es > > > > https://www.sygel.es > > > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona > > > > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH An der Eisenbahn 1 21224 Rosengarten Phone: +49 4105 56156-12 Fax: +49 4105 56156-10 Mobil: +49 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com Web: www.initos.com Geschäftsführung: Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
by Frederik Kramer - 11:41 - 14 Jun 2021 -
Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
Hi Daniel,As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to implement and more versatile.El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:Hi Frederik,
At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.Regards._______________________________________________
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by Valentín Vinagre - 10:26 - 14 Jun 2021 -
Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
Hi Frederik,
At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.Regards._______________________________________________
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by Valentín Vinagre - 10:20 - 14 Jun 2021
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