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Purchasing "packaging-like" products

Hello,

I am dealing with a situation where the customer purchases many products that are like this: "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" It is not packaging, because it is not possible to buy just 1kg. This is quite confusing for the customer and I am trying to make it easier for them to manage. One of the problems is that they perceive that the UoM here should be kg (because they just see it there in the name). This can be handled by product_secondary_unit and stock_secondary_unit to get the amount in kgs.

What I think could help is this: when ordering 1 unit of that product somehow turn in into 8 units of virtual "Flora Margarine 1kg" I am trying to wrap my head around this with no success. I have considered these modules but none seem to be doing what I would like to:

* product_supplierinfo_qty_multiplier
* purchase_only_by_packaging
* product_pack

Any ideas on how to approach this? Thank you very much.

Best regards

	Radovan Skolnik



by Radovan Skolnik - 08:36 - 1 Mar 2024

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  • Re: Purchasing "packaging-like" products
    Actually, no need to fiddle with price as the product.supplierinfo holds price 
    for purchase UoM. Even better.
    
    Best regards
    
    	Radovan
    
    On sobota 2. marca 2024 16:41:16 CET Radovan Skolnik wrote:
    
    > Hi Tom,
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > thank you for tip. That's probably the way to go even it requires some
    
    > tweaking of the product name / purchase description / price. What I mean is
    
    > if we have the original product like "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" for 40EUR and
    
    > we create UoM of 8-pack, the product internally should have name of "Flora
    
    > Margarine 1kg", purchase description of "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" and cost of
    
    > 5EUR. However that is doable even with hundreds of products - regular
    
    > expressions in Libre Office can do magic to help.
    
    > 
    
    > Few things then remain when purchasing like:
    
    > 1) On purchase order use only purchase description so it seems like the
    
    > original product. There used to be purchase_order_line_description, but
    
    > latest version is stuck at 12.0 Will port to 17.0 2) Only allow the
    
    > purchase_uom_id of that 8-pack to be selected on purchase order as no other
    
    > UoM is really available. Something like Aymerick suggested but not aware of
    
    > something dealing with this 3) Maybe hiding the name of the UoM from
    
    > purchase order as it would confuse the supplier
    
    > 
    
    > Best regards
    
    > 
    
    > 	Radovan
    
    > 
    
    > On piatok 1. marca 2024 22:12:14 CET Tom Blauwendraat wrote:
    
    > > Hi Radovan
    
    > > I had to deal with a similar situation for a supermarket, where
    
    > > an external database had to be imported as products in the system.
    
    > > It had a lot of similar examples like "package of 6 eggs" or
    
    > > "crate of 20 bottles" whereby the purchase and sales units are
    
    > > different.
    
    > > 
    
    > > I ended up creating separate "uom" records for each, which
    
    > > correspond to a certain number of another "uom". So a "12 pack" is
    
    > > 12 times a "unit". You can then decide to purchase in a different
    
    > > unit and sell in another unit. Odoo also has some documentation on
    
    > > it:
    
    > > https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/
    
    > > in ventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html [1] Maybe
    
    > > this could help
    
    > > 
    
    > > -Tom
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > On 3/1/24 20:36, Radovan Skolnik wrote:
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > Hello,
    
    > > I am dealing with a situation where the customer purchases many products
    
    > > that are like this: "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" It is not packaging, because
    
    > > it
    
    > > is not possible to buy just 1kg. This is quite confusing for the customer
    
    > > and I am trying to make it easier for them to manage. One of the problems
    
    > > is that they perceive that the UoM here should be kg (because they just
    
    > > see
    
    > > it there in the name). This can be handled by product_secondary_unit and
    
    > > stock_secondary_unit to get the amount in kgs. What I think could help is
    
    > > this: when ordering 1 unit of that product somehow turn in into 8 units of
    
    > > virtual "Flora Margarine 1kg" I am trying to wrap my head around this with
    
    > > no success. I have considered these modules but none seem to be doing what
    
    > > I would like to: * product_supplierinfo_qty_multiplier
    
    > > * purchase_only_by_packaging
    
    > > * product_pack
    
    > > Any ideas on how to approach this? Thank you very much.
    
    > > Best regards
    
    > > Radovan Skolnik
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
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    > > https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/
    
    > > i
    
    > > nventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html [2]
    
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    by Radovan Skolnik - 04:51 - 2 Mar 2024
  • Re: Purchasing "packaging-like" products
    Hi Tom,
    
    
    thank you for tip. That's probably the way to go even it requires some tweaking of the product name / purchase description / price. What I mean is if we have the original product like "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" for 40EUR and we create UoM of 8-pack, the product internally should have name of "Flora Margarine 1kg", purchase description of "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" and cost of 5EUR. However that is doable even with hundreds of products - regular expressions in Libre Office can do magic to help.
    
    Few things then remain when purchasing like:
    1) On purchase order use only purchase description so it seems like the original product. There used to be purchase_order_line_description, but latest version is stuck at 12.0 Will port to 17.0
    2) Only allow the purchase_uom_id of that 8-pack to be selected on purchase order as no other UoM is really available. Something like Aymerick suggested but not aware of something dealing with this
    3) Maybe hiding the name of the UoM from purchase order as it would confuse the supplier
    
    Best regards
    
    	Radovan
    
    
    On piatok 1. marca 2024 22:12:14 CET Tom Blauwendraat wrote:
    
    > Hi Radovan
    
    > I had to deal with a similar situation for a supermarket, where
    
    > an external database had to be imported as products in the system.
    
    > It had a lot of similar examples like "package of 6 eggs" or
    
    > "crate of 20 bottles" whereby the purchase and sales units are
    
    > different.
    
    > 
    
    > I ended up creating separate "uom" records for each, which
    
    > correspond to a certain number of another "uom". So a "12 pack" is
    
    > 12 times a "unit". You can then decide to purchase in a different
    
    > unit and sell in another unit. Odoo also has some documentation on
    
    > it:
    
    > https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/in
    
    > ventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html [1] Maybe this
    
    > could help
    
    > 
    
    > -Tom
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > On 3/1/24 20:36, Radovan Skolnik wrote:
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > Hello,
    
    > I am dealing with a situation where the customer purchases many products
    
    > that are like this: "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" It is not packaging, because it
    
    > is not possible to buy just 1kg. This is quite confusing for the customer
    
    > and I am trying to make it easier for them to manage. One of the problems
    
    > is that they perceive that the UoM here should be kg (because they just see
    
    > it there in the name). This can be handled by product_secondary_unit and
    
    > stock_secondary_unit to get the amount in kgs. What I think could help is
    
    > this: when ordering 1 unit of that product somehow turn in into 8 units of
    
    > virtual "Flora Margarine 1kg" I am trying to wrap my head around this with
    
    > no success. I have considered these modules but none seem to be doing what
    
    > I would like to: * product_supplierinfo_qty_multiplier
    
    > * purchase_only_by_packaging
    
    > * product_pack
    
    > Any ideas on how to approach this? Thank you very much.
    
    > Best regards
    
    > Radovan Skolnik
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    > _______________________________________________
    
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    > 
    
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    > 
    
    > [1]
    
    > https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/i
    
    > nventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html [2]
    
    > https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
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    by Radovan Skolnik - 04:46 - 2 Mar 2024
  • Re: Purchasing "packaging-like" products
    This option with UoM is nice for food business because UoM is shown by default on the pdf reports (SO, INV).

    To go a step further (in standard) your customer could create differents categories of UoM by type of products or by brand if there is a lot of differences. This would help to avoid having hundreds of UoM into the same category and limit the mistake of selecting « pack of X » if this specific UoM is not available for the product.

    Aymerick Glowacki


    Le ven. 1 mars 2024 à 22:12, Tom Blauwendraat <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :

    Hi Radovan

    I had to deal with a similar situation for a supermarket, where an external database had to be imported as products in the system. It had a lot of similar examples like "package of 6 eggs" or "crate of 20 bottles" whereby the purchase and sales units are different.

    I ended up creating separate "uom" records for each, which correspond to a certain number of another "uom". So a "12 pack" is 12 times a "unit". You can then decide to purchase in a different unit and sell in another unit. Odoo also has some documentation on it:

    https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/inventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html

    Maybe this could help


    -Tom



    On 3/1/24 20:36, Radovan Skolnik wrote:
    Hello,
    
    I am dealing with a situation where the customer purchases many products that are like this: "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" It is not packaging, because it is not possible to buy just 1kg. This is quite confusing for the customer and I am trying to make it easier for them to manage. One of the problems is that they perceive that the UoM here should be kg (because they just see it there in the name). This can be handled by product_secondary_unit and stock_secondary_unit to get the amount in kgs.
    
    What I think could help is this: when ordering 1 unit of that product somehow turn in into 8 units of virtual "Flora Margarine 1kg" I am trying to wrap my head around this with no success. I have considered these modules but none seem to be doing what I would like to:
    
    * product_supplierinfo_qty_multiplier
    * purchase_only_by_packaging
    * product_pack
    
    Any ideas on how to approach this? Thank you very much.
    
    Best regards
    
    	Radovan Skolnik
    
    
    

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    by glowacki.aymerick - 11:26 - 1 Mar 2024
  • Re: Purchasing "packaging-like" products

    Hi Radovan

    I had to deal with a similar situation for a supermarket, where an external database had to be imported as products in the system. It had a lot of similar examples like "package of 6 eggs" or "crate of 20 bottles" whereby the purchase and sales units are different.

    I ended up creating separate "uom" records for each, which correspond to a certain number of another "uom". So a "12 pack" is 12 times a "unit". You can then decide to purchase in a different unit and sell in another unit. Odoo also has some documentation on it:

    https://www.odoo.com/documentation/17.0/nl/applications/inventory_and_mrp/inventory/product_management/product_replenishment/uom.html

    Maybe this could help

    -Tom



    On 3/1/24 20:36, Radovan Skolnik wrote:
    Hello,
    
    I am dealing with a situation where the customer purchases many products that are like this: "Flora Margarine 8x1kg" It is not packaging, because it is not possible to buy just 1kg. This is quite confusing for the customer and I am trying to make it easier for them to manage. One of the problems is that they perceive that the UoM here should be kg (because they just see it there in the name). This can be handled by product_secondary_unit and stock_secondary_unit to get the amount in kgs.
    
    What I think could help is this: when ordering 1 unit of that product somehow turn in into 8 units of virtual "Flora Margarine 1kg" I am trying to wrap my head around this with no success. I have considered these modules but none seem to be doing what I would like to:
    
    * product_supplierinfo_qty_multiplier
    * purchase_only_by_packaging
    * product_pack
    
    Any ideas on how to approach this? Thank you very much.
    
    Best regards
    
    	Radovan Skolnik
    
    
    

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    by Tom Blauwendraat - 10:11 - 1 Mar 2024