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OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
Greetings!
I've done plenty of translating for Odoo in Sweden. Modules and
documentation for Odoo mainly in Transifex but also some for OCA, using
Weblate.
I like the tool Weblate. Sometimes it's more helpful than Transifex!
But I've always wondered why it's so slow. I often get the "500 time
out" -error and it's more frequently before lunch than after!
Who's in charge? What's the plan, if any...?
I assume others has experienced the same. I'm new to this e-mailing list
and maybe this has been discussed recently? If so, my apology for
highlighting the issue!
regards,
// jakob
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by Jakob Krabbe - 09:06 - 17 Jun 2024
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Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
Thanks Stéphane for all your efforts and the clear feedback!Regards,Le mer. 26 juin 2024 à 11:22, Stéphane Bidoul <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :Hi Pierre,Thanks a lot for proposing your help.I think it is (was) simply an issue with the 10 years old spinning disks being too slow for the kind of weblate workload we have.Now we have SSD and more RAM for caching so thing should be better much better.The next step now is indeed the Weblate 5 upgrade, for which Remy Cazenave has already proposed his support.You may want to get in touch with him to see if some collaboration makes sense.After that we'll see what can be done, as there are many possible avenues for improvements such as translation memories, approval workflow for communities who need it, rewriting the project and component creation scripts using the REST API (if they are still needed), etc.-sbiOn Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:07 AM Pierre Verkest <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:> While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.I don't really know weblate (only over a few translations I've done). However it's a python project and I would be very happy to help with performance issues topics, I guess the OCA weblate instance is probably quite an importante one.Are there already techies introspecting such issues or are you confident with new servers ? Do you need help to understand and fix the issue ?Le mar. 25 juin 2024 à 23:37, Stéphane Bidoul <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :The performance issues on the OCA server have been acute again today.While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.So I have had to take weblate down and started the move to the new machine.Thank you all for your patience.Best regards,--Stéphane Bidoul
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:51 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi everyone,Back from holidays, I indeed notice a lot of alerts and a very high load on our poor weblate instance that is already stretching our server past reasonable limits.As a short term measure, I have banned a couple of IP addresses that clearly abused the system.Now the good news is that I started configuring the new OCA server and we will progressively start moving the services to the new machine. This will also unblock the weblate upgrade to 5.x.I'll post here as this progresses, over the coming weeks and months.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulOn Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 4:23 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:Hi Jakob,
sorry you are right. I can share your pain today as i was also trying to interact with part of our infrastructure that was equally lacking reliability and peformance. However, i am pretty sure that we will soon (as in volountary soon) have solutions for these problems. In the meantime thank you for your willingsness to help
Best Frederik
Am 20.06.24 um 16:03 schrieb Jakob Krabbe:
Thank you for your reply! After a few days with Weblate and 504 Gateway Time-out, I'm now moving on with other tasks. I hope you or maybe Stephané could post a notice on this list when such upgrade has been made! regards, // jakob Den 2024-06-17 kl. 09:37, skrev Frederik Kramer: > Hi Jakob, > > afaik, OCA uses weblate because it doesn't just us as much as Transifex > charged us. If i am not mistaken we run Weblate ourselfes and if i > understood (Stephané Bidoul, who is the master of OCAs hardware > architecture) we are about to migrate on a more powerful hardware server > (also for that purpose). But Stephané can certainly be more precise on > that. So in the best case it should improve somewhen soon :-) > > Best and thanks for the question > > Frederik > > Am 17.06.24 um 09:07 schrieb Jakob Krabbe: >> Greetings! >> I've done plenty of translating for Odoo in Sweden. Modules and >> documentation for Odoo mainly in Transifex but also some for OCA, using >> Weblate. >> >> I like the tool Weblate. Sometimes it's more helpful than Transifex! >> >> But I've always wondered why it's so slow. I often get the "500 time >> out" -error and it's more frequently before lunch than after! >> >> Who's in charge? What's the plan, if any...? >> >> I assume others has experienced the same. I'm new to this e-mailing list >> and maybe this has been discussed recently? If so, my apology for >> highlighting the issue! >> >> regards, >> >> // jakob >> >> >> >> >> -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL >> AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se >> <mailto:jakob.krabbe@vertel.se> +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 >> 54 75 | vertel.se >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> >> Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org >> <mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> >> > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH Innungsstraße 7 > 21244 Buchholz i.d.N. Tel: +49 (0) 4181 13503 12 Fax: +49 (0) 4181 13503 > 10 Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com <mailto:frederik.kramer@initos.com> > Internet:www.initos.com <http://www.initos.com> > > Geschäftsführung: > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N. > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 54 75 | vertel.se
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by Pierre Verkest - 01:51 - 26 Jun 2024 -
Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
Thanks Stéphane, it seems very fast!PS: remind the locked modules, as you know...Da "Stéphane Bidoul" notifications@odoo-community.orgA "Contributors" contributors@odoo-community.orgCcData Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:57:41 -0000Oggetto Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
And weblate is back online, on the new machine.Let me know of any issue.Happy translation!-sbiOn Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:32 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:The performance issues on the OCA server have been acute again today.While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.So I have had to take weblate down and started the move to the new machine.Thank you all for your patience.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulStefano Consolarowww.mymage.it
by Stefano Consolaro - 11:56 - 26 Jun 2024 -
Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
Hi Pierre,Thanks a lot for proposing your help.I think it is (was) simply an issue with the 10 years old spinning disks being too slow for the kind of weblate workload we have.Now we have SSD and more RAM for caching so thing should be better much better.The next step now is indeed the Weblate 5 upgrade, for which Remy Cazenave has already proposed his support.You may want to get in touch with him to see if some collaboration makes sense.After that we'll see what can be done, as there are many possible avenues for improvements such as translation memories, approval workflow for communities who need it, rewriting the project and component creation scripts using the REST API (if they are still needed), etc.-sbiOn Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:07 AM Pierre Verkest <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:> While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.I don't really know weblate (only over a few translations I've done). However it's a python project and I would be very happy to help with performance issues topics, I guess the OCA weblate instance is probably quite an importante one.Are there already techies introspecting such issues or are you confident with new servers ? Do you need help to understand and fix the issue ?Le mar. 25 juin 2024 à 23:37, Stéphane Bidoul <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :The performance issues on the OCA server have been acute again today.While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.So I have had to take weblate down and started the move to the new machine.Thank you all for your patience.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulOn Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:51 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi everyone,Back from holidays, I indeed notice a lot of alerts and a very high load on our poor weblate instance that is already stretching our server past reasonable limits.As a short term measure, I have banned a couple of IP addresses that clearly abused the system.Now the good news is that I started configuring the new OCA server and we will progressively start moving the services to the new machine. This will also unblock the weblate upgrade to 5.x.I'll post here as this progresses, over the coming weeks and months.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulOn Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 4:23 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:Hi Jakob,
sorry you are right. I can share your pain today as i was also trying to interact with part of our infrastructure that was equally lacking reliability and peformance. However, i am pretty sure that we will soon (as in volountary soon) have solutions for these problems. In the meantime thank you for your willingsness to help
Best Frederik
Am 20.06.24 um 16:03 schrieb Jakob Krabbe:
Thank you for your reply! After a few days with Weblate and 504 Gateway Time-out, I'm now moving on with other tasks. I hope you or maybe Stephané could post a notice on this list when such upgrade has been made! regards, // jakob Den 2024-06-17 kl. 09:37, skrev Frederik Kramer: > Hi Jakob, > > afaik, OCA uses weblate because it doesn't just us as much as Transifex > charged us. If i am not mistaken we run Weblate ourselfes and if i > understood (Stephané Bidoul, who is the master of OCAs hardware > architecture) we are about to migrate on a more powerful hardware server > (also for that purpose). But Stephané can certainly be more precise on > that. So in the best case it should improve somewhen soon :-) > > Best and thanks for the question > > Frederik > > Am 17.06.24 um 09:07 schrieb Jakob Krabbe: >> Greetings! >> I've done plenty of translating for Odoo in Sweden. Modules and >> documentation for Odoo mainly in Transifex but also some for OCA, using >> Weblate. >> >> I like the tool Weblate. Sometimes it's more helpful than Transifex! >> >> But I've always wondered why it's so slow. I often get the "500 time >> out" -error and it's more frequently before lunch than after! >> >> Who's in charge? What's the plan, if any...? >> >> I assume others has experienced the same. I'm new to this e-mailing list >> and maybe this has been discussed recently? If so, my apology for >> highlighting the issue! >> >> regards, >> >> // jakob >> >> >> >> >> -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL >> AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se >> <mailto:jakob.krabbe@vertel.se> +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 >> 54 75 | vertel.se >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> >> Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org >> <mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> >> > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH Innungsstraße 7 > 21244 Buchholz i.d.N. Tel: +49 (0) 4181 13503 12 Fax: +49 (0) 4181 13503 > 10 Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com <mailto:frederik.kramer@initos.com> > Internet:www.initos.com <http://www.initos.com> > > Geschäftsführung: > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N. > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 54 75 | vertel.se
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by Stéphane Bidoul - 11:21 - 26 Jun 2024 -
Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
Indeed, very appreciated!Let's wait for v5.x to be implemented to suggest further possible improvements.Cheers!Il giorno mer 26 giu 2024 alle ore 11:02 Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> ha scritto:Great Stéphane,
thanks for this effort.
Best Frederik
Am 26.06.24 um 09:57 schrieb Stéphane Bidoul:
And weblate is back online, on the new machine.
Let me know of any issue.
Happy translation!
-sbi
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 11:32 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
The performance issues on the OCA server have been acute again today.
While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.
So I have had to take weblate down and started the move to the new machine.
Thank you all for your patience.
Best regards,
--
Stéphane Bidoul
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:51 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Back from holidays, I indeed notice a lot of alerts and a very high load on our poor weblate instance that is already stretching our server past reasonable limits.
As a short term measure, I have banned a couple of IP addresses that clearly abused the system.
Now the good news is that I started configuring the new OCA server and we will progressively start moving the services to the new machine. This will also unblock the weblate upgrade to 5.x.
I'll post here as this progresses, over the coming weeks and months.
Best regards,
--
Stéphane Bidoul
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 4:23 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
Hi Jakob,
sorry you are right. I can share your pain today as i was also trying to interact with part of our infrastructure that was equally lacking reliability and peformance. However, i am pretty sure that we will soon (as in volountary soon) have solutions for these problems. In the meantime thank you for your willingsness to help
Best Frederik
Am 20.06.24 um 16:03 schrieb Jakob Krabbe:
Thank you for your reply! After a few days with Weblate and 504 Gateway Time-out, I'm now moving on with other tasks. I hope you or maybe Stephané could post a notice on this list when such upgrade has been made! regards, // jakob Den 2024-06-17 kl. 09:37, skrev Frederik Kramer: > Hi Jakob, > > afaik, OCA uses weblate because it doesn't just us as much as Transifex > charged us. If i am not mistaken we run Weblate ourselfes and if i > understood (Stephané Bidoul, who is the master of OCAs hardware > architecture) we are about to migrate on a more powerful hardware server > (also for that purpose). But Stephané can certainly be more precise on > that. So in the best case it should improve somewhen soon :-) > > Best and thanks for the question > > Frederik > > Am 17.06.24 um 09:07 schrieb Jakob Krabbe: >> Greetings! >> I've done plenty of translating for Odoo in Sweden. Modules and >> documentation for Odoo mainly in Transifex but also some for OCA, using >> Weblate. >> >> I like the tool Weblate. Sometimes it's more helpful than Transifex! >> >> But I've always wondered why it's so slow. I often get the "500 time >> out" -error and it's more frequently before lunch than after! >> >> Who's in charge? What's the plan, if any...? >> >> I assume others has experienced the same. I'm new to this e-mailing list >> and maybe this has been discussed recently? If so, my apology for >> highlighting the issue! >> >> regards, >> >> // jakob >> >> >> >> >> -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL >> AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se >> <mailto:jakob.krabbe@vertel.se> +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 >> 54 75 | vertel.se >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> >> Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org >> <mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> >> > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH Innungsstraße 7 > 21244 Buchholz i.d.N. Tel: +49 (0) 4181 13503 12 Fax: +49 (0) 4181 13503 > 10 Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com <mailto:frederik.kramer@initos.com> > Internet:www.initos.com <http://www.initos.com> > > Geschäftsführung: > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N. > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 54 75 | vertel.se
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by Francesco Foresti - 11:07 - 26 Jun 2024 -
Re: OCA Weblate, why the lack of speed?
> While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.I don't really know weblate (only over a few translations I've done). However it's a python project and I would be very happy to help with performance issues topics, I guess the OCA weblate instance is probably quite an importante one.Are there already techies introspecting such issues or are you confident with new servers ? Do you need help to understand and fix the issue ?Le mar. 25 juin 2024 à 23:37, Stéphane Bidoul <notifications@odoo-community.org> a écrit :The performance issues on the OCA server have been acute again today.While the root cause is still unclear it still seems related to weblate.So I have had to take weblate down and started the move to the new machine.Thank you all for your patience.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulOn Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:51 PM Stéphane Bidoul <stephane.bidoul@acsone.eu> wrote:Hi everyone,Back from holidays, I indeed notice a lot of alerts and a very high load on our poor weblate instance that is already stretching our server past reasonable limits.As a short term measure, I have banned a couple of IP addresses that clearly abused the system.Now the good news is that I started configuring the new OCA server and we will progressively start moving the services to the new machine. This will also unblock the weblate upgrade to 5.x.I'll post here as this progresses, over the coming weeks and months.Best regards,--Stéphane BidoulOn Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 4:23 PM Frederik Kramer <notifications@odoo-community.org> wrote:
Hi Jakob,
sorry you are right. I can share your pain today as i was also trying to interact with part of our infrastructure that was equally lacking reliability and peformance. However, i am pretty sure that we will soon (as in volountary soon) have solutions for these problems. In the meantime thank you for your willingsness to help
Best Frederik
Am 20.06.24 um 16:03 schrieb Jakob Krabbe:
Thank you for your reply! After a few days with Weblate and 504 Gateway Time-out, I'm now moving on with other tasks. I hope you or maybe Stephané could post a notice on this list when such upgrade has been made! regards, // jakob Den 2024-06-17 kl. 09:37, skrev Frederik Kramer: > Hi Jakob, > > afaik, OCA uses weblate because it doesn't just us as much as Transifex > charged us. If i am not mistaken we run Weblate ourselfes and if i > understood (Stephané Bidoul, who is the master of OCAs hardware > architecture) we are about to migrate on a more powerful hardware server > (also for that purpose). But Stephané can certainly be more precise on > that. So in the best case it should improve somewhen soon :-) > > Best and thanks for the question > > Frederik > > Am 17.06.24 um 09:07 schrieb Jakob Krabbe: >> Greetings! >> I've done plenty of translating for Odoo in Sweden. Modules and >> documentation for Odoo mainly in Transifex but also some for OCA, using >> Weblate. >> >> I like the tool Weblate. Sometimes it's more helpful than Transifex! >> >> But I've always wondered why it's so slow. I often get the "500 time >> out" -error and it's more frequently before lunch than after! >> >> Who's in charge? What's the plan, if any...? >> >> I assume others has experienced the same. I'm new to this e-mailing list >> and maybe this has been discussed recently? If so, my apology for >> highlighting the issue! >> >> regards, >> >> // jakob >> >> >> >> >> -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL >> AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se >> <mailto:jakob.krabbe@vertel.se> +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 >> 54 75 | vertel.se >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> >> Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org >> <mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe >> <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> >> > -- Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer Geschäftsführer initOS GmbH Innungsstraße 7 > 21244 Buchholz i.d.N. Tel: +49 (0) 4181 13503 12 Fax: +49 (0) 4181 13503 > 10 Mobil: +49 (0) 179 3901819 Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com <mailto:frederik.kramer@initos.com> > Internet:www.initos.com <http://www.initos.com> > > Geschäftsführung: > Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buchholz i.d.N. > Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226 > USt-IdNr.: DE815580155 > Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15 > <https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15> > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe > <https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe> > -- Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards/ 顺祝商祺, Jakob Krabbe VERTEL AB | Jakob Krabbe | jakob.krabbe@vertel.se +46 (0)13 99 19 480 | +46 (0) 709 24 54 75 | vertel.se
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