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European Union One-Stop-Shop

Hi Community,

As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of July) that will affect all EU countries.

More info:
https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en

For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European partner working on this?

Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology proposed by OCA.

Regards,
--

Harald Panten López

CEO

Sygel Technology S.L

+34 637 88 42 41
harald.panten@sygel.es
https://www.sygel.es
C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona

by Harald Panten Lopez - 12:26 - 10 Jun 2021

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  • Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hello all,

    A quick update on this.

    There was a great team effort on this feature, to develop, review and port across multiple Odoo versions.
    The l10n_eu_oss module can be found at:
    https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule

    In the meanwhile, Odoo released their support for this.
    It is an improvement to the l10n_eu_service module, available in Odoo CE.
    There were later fixes, but the main implementation is here:
    https://github.com/odoo/odoo/commit/d347eae1646639e2b346d404d1eb68ce9eac005c#diff-6299170bf4eb194cb23d4b799e0ce09b17a250b11e6eeb6aa3c58f63cea04c95

    So there are two different solutions right now.
    I started an Issue to discuss the differences.
    Right now contributors feeling is that the OCA version probably does a better job.
    You can check the details here:
    https://github.com/OCA/account-fiscal-rule/issues/226

    Have a nice day
    Daniel


    Às 11:27 de 10/06/21, Harald Panten Lopez escreveu:
    Hi Community,

    As you know, a major tax change will be implemented shortly (1st of July) that will affect all EU countries.

    More info:
    https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/oss_en

    For the newest versions, (from V14) Odoo is planning a "kind of solution", but what happens with older versions? Is any European partner working on this?

    Some of the Spanish partners started this project, and we were wondering if anybody else will do the same. The main idea is to "join our efforts" and offer a global solution according to the ideology proposed by OCA.

    Regards,
    --


    Harald Panten López

    CEO

    Sygel Technology S.L




    +34 637 88 42 41
    harald.panten@sygel.es
    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona



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    by Daniel Reis - 05:51 - 6 Jul 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop

    Hi all,

    We didn't do the meeting today because there was lack of attendance,
    would you like to do a meeting tomorrow 22.06 at 15:00? or if you like please suggest
    other dates.

    Kind regards,

    Usama

    On 14.06.21 23:42, Frederik Kramer wrote:
    Hi all, 
    
    what you all makes absolute sense. In Germany we have the probably
    slightly different case that most SME still use Datev for their
    financial accounting, so looking at that specific thing its desireable
    to follow Datev' habit on creating accounts for specific accounting
    practices. Having said this meanwhile i checked the "German" Datev
    habit with regard to intra-trade and found out, that most probably we
    accumulate all but the domestic trades on 1! revenue account and 1! tax
    account. I'll wait final approval by the tax advisors but if that holds
    true, than yes certainly no reason to rework the design for more
    flexibility / complexity here.
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Montag, den 14.06.2021, 20:26 +0000 schrieb Valentin Vinagre
    Urteaga:
    
    > Hi Daniel,
    
    > As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much
    
    > more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to
    
    > implement and more versatile.
    
    > 
    
    > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<
    
    > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:
    
    > > Hi Frederik,
    
    > > At first we also thought about being able to define which account
    
    > > to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take
    
    > > it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and
    
    > > then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be
    
    > > carried out with this functionality.
    
    > > 
    
    > > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<
    
    > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    
    > > > The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I
    
    > > > discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the
    
    > > > `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed
    
    > > > things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and
    
    > > > restricting.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Regards.
    
    > > > _______________________________________________
    
    > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > -- 
    
    > > 
    
    > > Valentín Vinagre Urteaga
    
    > > CTO
    
    > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    > > 
    
    > > +34 662 68 78 95
    
    > > 
    
    > > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es
    
    > > 
    
    > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    > > 
    
    > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    > > 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

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    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
    
    Phone:   +49 4105 56156-39
    Fax:     +49 4105 56156-10
    
    Email:   usama.albaghdady@initos.com
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    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr: DE815580155

    by Usama Albaghdady - 03:36 - 21 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi all, 
    
    what you all makes absolute sense. In Germany we have the probably
    slightly different case that most SME still use Datev for their
    financial accounting, so looking at that specific thing its desireable
    to follow Datev' habit on creating accounts for specific accounting
    practices. Having said this meanwhile i checked the "German" Datev
    habit with regard to intra-trade and found out, that most probably we
    accumulate all but the domestic trades on 1! revenue account and 1! tax
    account. I'll wait final approval by the tax advisors but if that holds
    true, than yes certainly no reason to rework the design for more
    flexibility / complexity here.
    
    Best Frederik 
    
    Am Montag, den 14.06.2021, 20:26 +0000 schrieb Valentin Vinagre
    Urteaga:
    
    > Hi Daniel,
    
    > As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much
    
    > more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to
    
    > implement and more versatile.
    
    > 
    
    > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<
    
    > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:
    
    > > Hi Frederik,
    
    > > At first we also thought about being able to define which account
    
    > > to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take
    
    > > it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and
    
    > > then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be
    
    > > carried out with this functionality.
    
    > > 
    
    > > El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<
    
    > > pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    
    > > > The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I
    
    > > > discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the
    
    > > > `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed
    
    > > > things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and
    
    > > > restricting.
    
    > > > 
    
    > > > Regards.
    
    > > > _______________________________________________
    
    > > > Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    
    > > > Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
    
    > > > Unsubscribe: https://odoo-community.org/groups?unsubscribe
    
    > > 
    
    > > 
    
    > > -- 
    
    > > 
    
    > > Valentín Vinagre Urteaga
    
    > > CTO
    
    > > Sygel Technology S.L
    
    > > 
    
    > > +34 662 68 78 95
    
    > > 
    
    > > valentin.vinagre@sygel.es
    
    > > 
    
    > > https://www.sygel.es
    
    > > 
    
    > > C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona
    
    > > 
    
    > 
    
    > 
    
    -- 
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer
    Geschäftsführer
            
    initOS GmbH
    An der Eisenbahn 1
    21224 Rosengarten
            
    Phone:  +49 4105 56156-12
    Fax:    +49 4105 56156-10
    Mobil:  +49 179 3901819
            
    Email: frederik.kramer@initos.com
    Web:   www.initos.com
            
    Geschäftsführung:
    Dr.-Ing. Frederik Kramer & Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Torsten Francke
    
    Sitz der Gesellschaft: Rosengarten – Klecken
    Amtsgericht Tostedt, HRB 205226
    Steuer-Nr: 15/200/53247
    USt-IdNr.: DE815580155
    
    

    by Frederik Kramer - 11:41 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Daniel,
    As Pedro has commented, we thought about that option but it was much more complicated, so we opted for an option that is easier to implement and more versatile.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 22:18, Valentin Vinagre Urteaga (<valentin.vinagre@sygel.es>) escribió:
    Hi Frederik,
    At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.

    Regards.

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    Valentín Vinagre Urteaga

    CTO

    Sygel Technology S.L

    +34 662 68 78 95
    valentin.vinagre@sygel.es
    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona


    --

    Valentín Vinagre Urteaga

    CTO

    Sygel Technology S.L

    +34 662 68 78 95
    valentin.vinagre@sygel.es
    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona

    by Valentín Vinagre - 10:26 - 14 Jun 2021
  • Re: [28078] Re: European Union One-Stop-Shop
    Hi Frederik,
    At first we also thought about being able to define which account to take the new taxes to ... but we thought it was better to take it to the same accounts that had the local taxes configured and then change it manually if necessary. Later an extension could be carried out with this functionality.

    El lun, 14 jun 2021 a las 21:57, Pedro M. Baeza (Tecnativa) (<pedro.baeza@tecnativa.com>) escribió:
    The XML-ID thing is something that Valentín, Harald and I discussed in the initial kick-off we did, and the `oss_country_id` field is far more versatile for the needed things than going to the XML-ID schema that will feel weird and restricting.

    Regards.

    _______________________________________________
    Mailing-List: https://odoo-community.org/groups/contributors-15
    Post to: mailto:contributors@odoo-community.org
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    --

    Valentín Vinagre Urteaga

    CTO

    Sygel Technology S.L

    +34 662 68 78 95
    valentin.vinagre@sygel.es
    https://www.sygel.es
    C/ Àlaba 61, 5ª planta, 08005, Barcelona

    by Valentín Vinagre - 10:20 - 14 Jun 2021